Deport Obama Supporters Out of USA

Yes, but they are people that have actual experience and knowledge in a subject. Unlike conservatives who argue against evolution simply because they don't believe evolution exists. Or conservatives who argue for the Government balancing it's budget even though most experts agree that would be destructive to the economy.

It's that kind of non-scientific belief system that I do not like. Show me facts, show me proof, and scientists, mathematicians, and economists show their facts and show their proof. Unlike conservatives who are a running stream of logical fallacies.

 

Lol, there's a pretty clear consensus on evolution among the scientific community. There are a few rogue scientist like Behe, that specifically try to deny evolution. But what you are saying is a red-herring.

 

And what you are saying is an appeal to authority. Just because everyone agrees with the knowledge that they have today doesn't mean it's true. That's why science is infallible when it comes to God. Just stay the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of God and we'll shut the (*)(*)(*)(*) up. You don't know (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Lol, case in point

 

Obama supporters can stay in the country, but they have to listen to country/western music from now on.

 

I'm an Obama supporter who likes country and western music! Go Alan Jackson and George Jones!

 

You are the definition of brainwashed. There's two groups of scientists, one, a larger group (naturally, since non-believers tend towards scientific fields) saying one thing, and a smaller group saying another. You go with the larger group because A. you like it better and B. it's popular

So not only are you blindly trusting the first "intellectually superior" group, you're dismissing the other "intellectually superior" group because, well, the other group says they're wrong. Well I guess we all have faith in the end!

 

Didn't you know that's what this country was founded on?

 

Lol, there isn't a larger group and a smaller group in evolution. There is basically the entire scientific community that believes in evolution and there is maybe a dozen rogue scientists that do not. Most scientists are in agreement because science has to be proven by observational testing. There is very little disagreements by the scientific community on observational proofs.

When it comes to the Universe and some other topics that have scientists in disagreement it is because there is not observational proof and it is very hard to test... so this is where scientific theory comes in to play. Evolution isn't a scientific "theory". It is a factual representation of how things evolve.

 

lol, Scientists have not and will not prove or disprove the existence of a God because as humans we are limited to only being able to prove positives. And evolution is a theory tell your gangbang partners to work harder.

 

i wish that were true for bush the person who created the recession then all the racist whites would be gone

oh happy day

 

lol how is this guy not banned yet? All the bigoted racist blacks need to go to Africa. You guys can't appreciate this country just (*)(*)(*)(*) off into the ocean perhaps.

 

Haha, I'm not talking about God. Your beliefs don't matter to me. Science matters. God and evolution can still exist. This is exactly the difference between conservatives and educated liberals. One uses their "belief" system and discredits science based on this belief, while the other uses science and math.

 

Boy... what a STUPID, unconstitutional and bigoted suggestion.

It's disgusting!

 

learn to read and tell your gang bang buddies to not get so cocky there is difference between theory and fact. Evolution doesn't have nearly as much evidence as the theory of gravity it's not as strong.

 

Science and God do not have to be at odds with each other at all. There are arguments for God's existence that use science as their basis. Check reasonablefaith.org. It's run by William Lane Craig, a theistic philosopher who, whole I don't agree with him, don't think he is stupid either. People who espouse extreme skepticism of science don't take into consideration modern medicine, air conditioning, video games, computers, etc. etc. And if one is skeptical of science, what would be a replacement? What would be the best way to look at whether or not God exists?

 

wow you did not address my post. I am not attacking science I am attacking one theory. Try again.

 

If you trust the scientific method, and all the scientists who espouse evolution use the method, and they are a MAJORITY of scientists, then it isn't argument ad populum like you claimed earlier. That would just be if I said, 80% of people believe the world is flat, therefore it is. It's not just using numbers. It is using experts in a field (unless you are questioning science itself, which is totally reasonable in some cases) who use methods we all agree are good and they espouse that a certain view point is correct, i.e. evolution.

 

Yes but the subject of evolution imo is different. As you know human bias can be minimized but never eliminated when doing this kind of holistic research. Since Christianity is such a powerful religion in the world people are going to want to disprove it and the bias is naturally going to be stronger in a topic like where humans originated. I agree with most of evolution and most of it is sound. But imo there is a point where they took a right turn and the bias is very noticable. Call me dumb whatever I score the highest marks in all of my classes don't even try. College is a joke liberals think they're smart because they sit through classes

 

OK I think we can agree on something here. Human bias is a huge problem that has to apply to pretty much everything. You are completely right on that. Maybe the scientists will change. Many believed that the universe was eternal, and then came Einstein and blah blah we now have the Big Bang. This is more of a question of what sort of justification we need to believe something RIGHT NOW, in this time in history.

With regards to Christianity, it is true that some people will want to disprove it just because it's the big dog in the U.S. when it comes to religious belief. However, not all scientists are atheists. Here is a quote from Pew, " According to the poll, just over half of scientists (51%) believe in some form of deity or higher power; specifically, 33% of scientists say they believe in God, while 18% believe in a universal spirit or higher power. By contrast, 95% of Americans believe in some form of deity or higher power, according to a survey of the general public conducted by the Pew Research Center in July 2006."- http://pewforum.org/Science-and-Bioethics/Scientists-and-Belief.aspx. These numbers don't suggest scientists are all out to get Christianity, with 51% claiming a belief in a higher power, and 33% citing God specifically. Compared to the general public, where only 5% don't believe in God it may seem big, but I don't think the popular perception that 90% of scientists are atheists out to kill religion is accurate.

 

Lol, surprisingly you can't even get insults right. All scientist know about gravity is that it exists... they do not have a provable theory as to how it exist or what causes it.

Evolution has plenty of evidence on how it exists. We don't think we are smart because we sit in classes, we think we are smart because we apply science to our decision making process. Therefore we want factual observational facts before we make decisions. This allows us to utilize experts in the field that have done the research for us to make our "informed" opinions.

I'm heavy in to economics and finance. So I read experts throughout history and their evolved knowledge of economics, particulary as it is applied to America. I don't listen to Sarah Palin telling us the Government needs to stop spending or Ron Paul telling us that we need competing currencies. Those aren't experts, those are armchair conservative/libertarians that "believe" they know something with out having to actually prove it.

And they use pure logical fallacies to make their case.

 

How many of them believe in the bible? Not many eh.

 

Fire and Flame is truth and facts.

 

lol I am going to analyze you if you don't mind. You are likely one of the following:

1. a right-winger who has to be like 8 years old, 14 max
2. a right-winger who is trolling
3. a left-winger posing as a right-winger to get your side to attack you
4. smoking something that you need to pass over here

amirite?

 

Indeed. The red states are the biggest government leeches of all.
They get all sorts of benefits from the government way out of proportion to their population.