Derek Chauvin stabbed by inmate in federal prison, seriously injured

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  1. Alwayssa

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    That is what certain conservative medias want you to think. But in Federal Prison, you are a number, and there are unwritten rules in which prisoners live by. If you dissespect someone, you may get shanked, aka stabbed. There is no iff's, and's or butts. If you snitch, or presume to snitch, you get shanked, no if's, and's or butt's. And since the BOP is not saying much other than an "incident" confirming that Chauvin was stabbed, anyting else is speculation. Since this is federal prison and the chances are that no one there is from where he is or has direct knowledge of that crime or related to the family, I doubt it was because of the crime directly. He could be he blabbed that he was a former police officer, and that may be a reason why he was shanked, not the crime in and of itself.

    Remember, he was in a two bed cell, had a roomie that shared a toilet, and so forth. They would be required to work or have an education, and they would have free time. It appears the incident happened in the yard or in the Unit where you are free to move. So, more than likely the shot caller of that unit, that pod, would have given the go-ahead for the stabbing, which means it is probably something that happened inside the prison than because of what he is convicted.
     
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    No they didnt, you were lied to.

    He had far more than just "a little" drugs in him. He had a lethal dose.

    This is what the ME said.

    They said he had a fatal dose of drugs in his system, but then claim that isn't what killed him...which logically doesn't make sense and is what is being used to push the lie liberal media has fed you.
     
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    Its the reality, and not contingent on what any media wants.

    We dont live in a society where everything occurs in a vacuum. It is not reasonable to believe otherwise.

    He was a very well known case, and a cop. People knew of him going in. It is unreasonable to believe it is unlikely because of his charge.

    Yes, its all speculation. But there is reaosnable speculation and unreasonable. What you are doing is unreasonable. There is nothing about where it occurred, or the idea that it possibly came from a shot caller that indicates it was anything whatsoever lol. The conclusions you are drawing a completely devoid of connecting logical points lol. You are jumping from A-C very quickly without a B.
     
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    the article said "low security camp"

    "The incident marks the second incident at the prison in around a year. In November 2022, an inmate at the prison's low-security camp attempted to shoot a visitor in the head, but the weapon was misfired."

    I do agree, could of been his ego too, hard to tell until we get more info
     
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    if I had a bad flu and that cop did that to me, I could die....

    he was handcuffed, that was insane
     
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    That was not the ME who conducted the autopsy, that was the defense "expert witness" who never read or even understood the amount of drugs in the system. He was selling, for the most part, the defense's argument. The ME, the one who works for the county, said no such thing and the amount of drugs listed in the toxicology report shows no such thing. The official cause of death was homicide, by afixiation, contributed by some of the drugs in the system.
     
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    Well, I was looking at FCI Tuscon. There is USP Tuscon that actually has a prison camp, minimum security, and dorm rooms for its prisoners, some 30 to 50 at a time. I think the article misspoke or was incorrect. According to BOP, Chauvin is at FCI Tuscon, which is medium security. The prison camp is associated with USP Tuscon. The two facilities is one big complex called Federal Correctional Complex, Tuscon. And that shooting you mentioned occurred at FCI Tuscon.
     
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    You have been fed lies, and you bought them.

    It takes such a small amount of fent to kill a person. He had plenty beyond that amount. They simply disagreed that his was the "main reason" why he was killed.

    The knee was not on his neck in a way that would limit his oxygen.
     
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    I've always said the officer could have done better. But he did not murder the career shitbag Floyd. Floyd killed himself with his over eating, and drug abuse.
     
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    that would sound more appropriate
     
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    Everyone reacts to fentanyl differently. If you ever had a major operation with general anesthesia, the chances of fentanyl being used is great while you are under. I am not saying George Floyd had major operation, but the amount of fentanyl is not enough to kill him by most drug experts who commented on the amount in this system. It does stay with you in your system at least 48 hours and the amount he had was consistent that he had taken a substance with some type of fentanyl. However, it was not enough to kill him or have his body go into convulsions either, which is what happens when one overdoses on fentanyl. But the neurologist, a medical expert, and the actual ME report say otherwise.
     
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    the cop wanted to be a dick and abuse Floyd, how did that work out

    yes, Floyd paid for his bad deeds with his life, Chauvin paid for his bad deeds with a long prison sentence
     
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    LOL!

    Do the MATH, bro!

    KillerCop is STILL filing APPEALS which means he has NOT accepted his own GUILT. His ATTITUDE reflects his REFUSAL to ACKNOWLEDGE that he MURDURED his VICTIM in COLD BLOOD. That too speaks to his ARROGANCE because he MUST have believed that he was going to get away with his MURDER in broad daylight.

    Now he finds himself INCARCERATED with the SAME type of people as his VICTIM. They are NOT going to accept any of his ATTITUDE because they KNOW he is GUILTY.

    Only a matter of time before his OWN attitude would end up coming back to BITE him on the ASS.

    No one else is to blame for him being in his CURRENT predicament.

    Wonder how many YEARS he will spend in self imposed SOLITARY confinement?
     
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    Last I heard, not even the Supreme Court will hear his case and rejected not to hear it. But Chauvin is doing what most prisoners do, especially those on death row or serving long or life sentences. A friend of mine whose son was murdered in 2019 is filing appeals despite the fact he accepted a plea deal by the prosecution. He is serving 30 years for felony murder in an attempted carjacking in Fort Worth. He still believes he will walk out of prison a free man sooner rather than later, even boasting about it before the trial.
     
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    contrary to some on the left, I have never denied that Chauvin was guilty of something-manslaughter is what I would have charged if I was a state DA. Not murder. The murder charge was based on -IMHO, 1 or both of two things-the definition of murder in that state is broader than Ohio or other states I have tried cases in and 2) the woke hysterics and riots surrounding the death of a felonious POS
     
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    Oh, look!
    How ironic.
    Prison employees gave "life saving"measures to Chauvin.


    Derek Chauvin 47849-509 Transferred to the facility in August 2022. Scheduled release in 2038.
    Convicted on several state and federal charges relating to the 2020 murder of George Floyd, among other civil rights charges.[6]

    Chauvin was stabbed by another inmate on November 24, 2023.

    Prison employees performed "life-saving" measures before Chauvin was taken to a hospital for evaluation and treatment.[7]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Correctional_Institution,_Tucson
     
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    Floyd could BREATH he did NOT die of suffocation or asphyxiation. Why do you keep making these fallacious assertions? Floyd was complaining he could not breath BEFORE Chauvin even got there. He was a dead man walking at that point.

    He and the officers acted exactly and according to their MRT training and discussed it at the scene as the best way to keep the continuing to struggling Floyd from hurting himself and them while the awaited the arriving at any moment EMT's and no the EMT's were interfered with and it wouldn't have made a different Floyd was beyond any help or resuscitation. He was in a pulmonary arrest, his heart could not properly pump the blood through the lungs so he died from lack of oxygen. Nothing the officers did caused that to happen.

    He WAS told he was being detained, he WAS told he was being arrested for the drugs they found and the fake bill. He was told that EMT's had been called. He was told over and over and over to stop fighting and resisting and to calm down. He the bystanders were yelling at him to stop fighting and resisting the police one even sayin MAN you gonna have a heart attack.

    Do you know he was in a similar arrest before this one. Have you ever seen the video of that arrest? He did the same thing there trying eat the drugs he had on him as he resisted the orders of the police and resisted arrest. That was not allowed in court.

    FALSE, there was no compression or blockage of his neck. He was breathing the entire time, it felt to him that he could not breath because his blood was not being pumped through his lungs. Stop with the false statements. The violence was started by Floyd with the arresting officers, he continued it when the other officers including Chauvin arrived. Floyd fought his way out of the second vehicle an on to the ground. The officers went to their MRT training to keep him subdued so he would not injure himself or them as they awaited the EMT's to arrive. But Floyd was a dead man dying at that point and nothing the officers did caused it nor was their anything they could have done to prevent it. It was Floyd's health and the drugs he induced and the struggle he caused and continued to cause in the lawful arrest he was being subjected.

    Obviously you have not bother to watch the new evidence and witness and other officer interviews in the The Fall of Minneapolis documentary already cited but here again

    https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/.

    If would do you well to do so and get the evidence and all the body cam footage and what actually happened correct.
     
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    What is ironic that medical personnel gave medical assistance to Chauvin?

    Do you think he somehow deserved this?
     
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    SCOTUS was only looking at the change of venue appeal not the facts or evidence presented. The fact is there is not a venue in America where he could have gotten a fair trial because the BLM lynch mobs were storming the cities.
     
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    Do cited the drug experts that said that the amount of fentanyl in his system was not enough to kill someone especially someone with a grossly weakened heart. He had over THREE TIMES a lethal dose and that does not count for all he ingested.

    He did the same thing in his previous arrest in 2019 but you didn't know that I bet. And the documentary to which I pointed you deals with how the prosecutors pressured the ME to alter the autopsy report with supporting documentation. He died from pulmonary arrest brought on by the lethal dose of fentanyl and other drugs in his system, he grossly weakened heart and pulmonary system and HIS RESISTING ARREST. Nothing the officers did cause it or could have prevented it.
     
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    OH well let's just toss aside the inconvenient facts if they don't suit your case, is that how you do it. OF COURSE it is relevant, he was complaining of not being able to breath WHILE HE WAS STANDING as they attempted to get him into the first vehicle before Chauvin even arrived.

    YES as they were trained to do to keep him from continuing to struggle and JUST LAY THERE until the EMT's arrived. Floyd had already stopped fighting only to start it up again on him they were not going to let that happen again.

    They are NOT required to have such medical training or administer medical attention especially when they are surrounded by an angry mob. But due tell me what training a police officer has to stop a pulmonary failure on a suspect in their custody?

    As I have already cited they were using the technique they were TRAINED to use. And they were TRYING to get him to calm down and lay there without moving so he would not continue to injure himself. But he was a dead man at that point due to his own actions and health condition.
     
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    NO it did not play a part he did not die of SUFFOCATION. How many times do you have to be told that. It was his heart and pulmonary system that failed due to his health and the massive amounts of drugs in his system aggravated his physically struggling with the police and refusing their orders as they tried to get him first into a vehicle and they calm him down on the ground until the EMT's who were called 35 seconds after the arrest but had gotten the wrong address arrived. There was no injury, no bones broken not even bruising on his neck.
     
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    No, the M.E. did not say that-- but why would anyone assume there is a factual predicate to any of your claims?


    https://www.reuters.com/article/fac...death-for-george-floyd-in-2020-idUSL1N3241XJ/

    <Snip>
    Social media users are reviving a claim that George Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man killed in May 2020 actually died due to a drug overdose. These claims are misleading, as official medical and court records ruled that police restraint, not drug use, was the main cause of death and evidence does not support the claim that Floyd had lethal levels of drugs in his system.
    <End Snip>




    https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-george-floyd-autopsy-new-892530421961

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    CLAIM: A new autopsy report for George Floyd has been released in 2023, revealing he died from a drug overdose, not from the actions of arresting Minneapolis police officers.

    AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Social media users are sharing a page from the 20-page autopsy report that was publicly released by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s office in full on June 3, 2020. It has not been changed since. While the page says he had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system, and did not have “life-threatening injuries,” the full report concludes Floyd died from “cardiopulmonary arrest,” not an overdose.
    <End Snip>


    If you wish to dispute the medical examiner's findings, why don't you start by listing the amounts of fentanyl & meth, in Floyd's system, and then go to a reputable site for info on those drugs, showing that this amount of either of them, was within the lethal range?

    Oh, that's right-- because it wouldn't support the perspective you want to voice...That would, also, be too much trouble, right? Easier to just take the word of some random screwball, on social media.
     
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    You people can re argue the facts of the case all you want. In the end, this prelim was convicted by a jury of his peers and sentenced by a judge. Him being stabbed doesn’t change the facts of the case nor the circumstances of his incarceration.

    NO SPECIAL FAVORS FOR FELONS.

    I hope he manages to serve his sentence.
     
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