Derek Chauvin stabbed by inmate in federal prison, seriously injured

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  1. FatBack

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    Just imagine what the worm riddled corpse of George Floyd looks like
     
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    On his guilt or not based on the evidence? Hardly that is NOT on what they ruled.

    That being said I don't care about feelings in fact I disdain such matters be judged on feelings I prefer the facts and evidence, how about you? That these officers are in prison was a travesty of justice, a lynch mob conviction not based on the evidence and the reality of what occurred.
     
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    They were following their training and there was nothing they could have done Floyd was a dead man before he hit the ground. They had FINALLY gotten him to CALM down and stop resisting. His lying there still is exactly what they were trying to accomplish so he could not hurt them or himself anymore. Of course Floyd didn't finally stop voluntarily he stopped because he was dying from a pulmonary arrest due to his previous very bad health and the drugs he had induced and then the struggles in which he engaged with the police resisting arrest.
     
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    thread winner
     
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    He told the other officers BEFORE Chauvin even got there he could not breath, he told when they were first trying to get him into the vehicle so he could sit there and wait for the arriving any moment EMT's.

    BUT Floyd choose to resist and fight as he drove himself into that pulmonary failure that killed him. I posted the link to the new video which has ALL the body cam footage and interviews with the persons involved and what happened in the aftermath all over a petty street thug who caused his own death.
     
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    your understanding of murder is a bit different than that of most states. I get that you would lionize Floyd and damn the cop but your speculation, at this point-has zero support
     
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    As I have noted and is fully explained in the cite I posted they acted exactly has they were trained with a suspect who repeatedly refuse to stop physically resisting and the thrashing and injuring himself. And they took him dead serious and called the EMT the first time, 39 seconds into the arrest, he said it.

    Their job was to restrain him until the arriving at any moment EMT unit arrived and they could engage in any medical aid. But Floyd was already a dead man due to the pulmonary failure he suffered. There was no magic turn him over and he'd suddenly be OK and ready to go. They had FINALLY gotten him to subside and relax and give up the struggle, they HOPED. He had already gone from calm to struggling again on them and they did not want that to happen again for his own safety. But in fact he did subside because he was dying as his body and brain were starved for oxygen but his pulmonary system could not provide it.
     
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    He HAD been a threat not only to the police attempting to arrest him but to HIMSELF when he refused to sit quietly in vehicle and began thrashing around and eventually fighting his way OUT of the vehicle and onto the ground. All Floyd had to do was sit there in the vehicle until the arriving at any moment EMT's got there and could try to treat him although it would have been in vain. The officers were following to the letter the MRT they had been taught to use on someone resisting just as Floyd was resisting. Race had nothing to do with the first officer he was fighting with as he tried to arrest him is BLACK.
     
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    Oh, ffs!
    His evil spirit is manifesting outwardly in his physical appearance.
     
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    my dude YE formerly known as kanye ...



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    What Floyd did in the car is totally irrelevant.
    What Chauvin and his thugs did not do is what is relevant.
    22.5 yrs plus a few more for the federal conviction.

    BULLSHIT to "the letter".
    3 guys on the one who was handcuffed on his stomach with a knee on his neck who couldn't resist and became lifeless with no pulse.
    Once they knew he had no pulse they were legally required to administer medical/CPR.
    If they had any integrity/morals they would have gotten Floyd off his stomach long before they killed him so he could BREATH.
     
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    hmm

    thats very diplomatic of you.
     
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    I prefer the truth to mealy mouthed attempts not to offend those who look to be offended
     
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    No he didnt get what he asked for, that makes zero sense. lmao
     
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    Yes he did.
    He wanted a federal prison to be in a safer environment and have activities not offered in the state prison he was in for his state guilty verdict.
    A higher caliber of inmates.
     
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    No he didnt, he was put in jail unreasonably because of an emotional jury basing their ruling on opinons that he was racist, despite there being no evidence of such a thing.
     
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    It is medium security actually. And this facility is usually for those waiting for their day in court, transfers to another federal facility, or serving their sentence, usually short term. My guess is sometime after he is healed from his injuries, he will be transferred on Con Air to another facility within the BOP, probably closer to family.

    It is hard to say why he was attacked but it probably had little to do with retaliation from what he was convicted of. He either dissed another inmate, or he was a prime target since he is a "celebrity" within the prison system and that gives "cred" to the attacker. The attacker will more than likely be facing additional jail time, along with segregation, for this attack.
     
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    He was convicted of both state and federal crime. He is serving his sentence based on the plea deal to his federal crimes that he serves all sentences concurrently.
     
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    Its not at all hard to say why he was attacked. The world doesn't exist in a vacuum. It was overwhelmingly likely it was because of what he was convicted of.
     
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    Putting a knee in a spot where he could not breathe is not supported by any law enforcement department in this country, period. that is exactly what happened. He also refused to allow EMTs to assist them when they saw he was medically in trouble. That is the basis of what happened and why he was charged with murder.

    He was suspected of passing a fake $20 bill, but he failed in asking the questions. He should have been clearly stated he was being detained, not taken to jail. This too violated state policy, and he assumed the person was guilty, probably because he has had dealings with him before. All in all, he was a bad cop and it showed on that day. There was no reason for George Floyd to die that day when the knee was suppressing his ability to breath, among other things. And in the video, it was Chauvin who opened the door, and that is when the resistance started. It was bad all around.
     
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    His knee didnt stop him from breathing. The drugs in his system stopped him from breathing. He was a dead man, as confirmed by autopsy. He had several times the lethal dose in his system.

    The knee did not surpress his ability to breath.
     
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    Yes, it is hard to tell. Prison time, even federal prison time, is based on routines and schedules. It was attacked with a shank, and inmates show inginuinity with shanks, tatoo devices, and so forth. There is one correctional officer for every 50 to 70 prisoners. No CO carries a firearm when dealing with prisoners. Each TCI has a special detail to handle difficult prisoners and COs do react to situations like the one with Chauvin. But I doubt it had something to do directly with the case.
     
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    Actually it did, in part contributed by the small amount of drugs he had in him. That is the ME report and why the death was listed as a homicide.
     
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    No, it isn't hard to tell. The odds are overwhelmingly pointing to because of his charge, considering he was such a high profile case that everyone knew about.

    Its not reasonable to determine its unlikely they were related.
     
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    No, it didnt. It wasnt a small amount of drugs in his system. He had many times the lethal dose.
     
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