Derogatory racial terms and curse filters

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  1. mikezila

    mikezila New Member

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    we'd have to care to put that much effort into it. sorry:bored:
     
  2. efjay

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    If i wanted to offend the abos i would call em coons...or boongs.
     
  3. Marlowe

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    Why ?

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    - yr lame "sorry" response sounds as if you couldnt think of anything informative to contribute.

    btw - why is there not the same objection to the "H" word HONKEY as to the "N" word ?
     
  4. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because the people who decide these things don't mind the words honky, limey, wop, dago, seppo, heeb, bogan, mick, kraut, frogface, cracker, etc...

    Just don't say n****r or f****t and you'll be okay. And whatever you do, never combine the two and say n****r-f****t as that could result in you being lynched.
     
  5. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    It is a good sign - as is all of those members who have taken the time and effort to speak up on this point.

    Each time those horrible words are used it erodes the self-esteem of the people involved
     
  6. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    BS...as has been shown in this thread, you and the P/C fools are the ONLY ones that dont like the words...
     
  7. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Ok, come to Brisbane and walk up to a group of Aboriginal people on the streets of The Valley and call them an Abo or a Gin and let's see how many stab wounds you end up with.
     
  8. philxx

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    Scotish hey,do you want me to start fool no holds barred are you prepared????????:gun:

    I will give you a taste ,why do scots have red hair ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?

    See its not that we cant go down to yopur level of slime thinking its that educated humans censor themselves!

    Pride themselves in having standards of thinking recognise boundaries as you don't have any that would indicate you didn't have a father figure and iam sorry for that how did your mother put Dinner on the table let me guess!

    Answer the Question why Do Scots have red Hair??????????
     
  9. kshRox01

    kshRox01 Banned

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    Abo? as in aboriginal?
    Why is that derogatory?

    What is Gin? Why is that a bad thing?
     
  10. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How far would you take that, phil? In your opinion, should all of those other words (*****, slut, hooknose, etc...) be banned as well?

    What about seppo, limey, mick, and other slurs like that? Ban or no ban?
     
  11. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Walk into an inner city bar frequented by blacks and in a polite and friendly way call them the "n word." Let us know how that turns out. Oh, and be sure and have your medical insurance card with you. You'll need it.
     
  12. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    The same reason as to why the N word is a bad word, its use, history and intent.
     
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  13. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    for the same reason the n word is derogatory.


    gin is an offensive term for an aboriginal woman.

    anyone discussing in the australian forums, or any subject discussing australian aborigines, who uses these terms is doing exactly the same as those who use the n word.
     
  14. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So it seems that your position is the same as mine. Banning the words does not make them go away. I say give people enough rope to hang themselves. It also makes no sense to have the filter censor some derogatory slurs while allowing so many others.

    What's funny is that I can produce quotes from most of the people that are calling for word bans in this thread, where they themselves have used derogatory terms when referring to entire groups or nations of peoples. It just goes to show how arbitrary such censorship is.
     
  15. cassandrabandra

    cassandrabandra New Member

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    true.

    and there are a whole lot of other words which are regarded as profanities, while some pretty vile insults are allowed.

    really - you either have censorship, or you don't.

    not partial censorship.

    lols I remember referring to a book on the history of women in australia.

    it is a highly regarded work - but I couldn't provide a link to a review of the book because of its title ...

    meanwhile, all kinds of insults are allowed on a regular basis.

    in all honesty - people need to learn to get their point across without being blatantly rude and offensive, and without using slurs against people on the basis of their race, ethnicity etc.
     
  16. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    But the censorship might be for reasons that you don't realise, such as it's designed to not offend the Americans on this board, which is why American swear words are blocked but you can say all sorts of non American swear words to your heart is content.
     
  17. Leo2

    Leo2 Well-Known Member

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    Basically, I think common sense and common courtesy should prevail. We are after all, attempting to communicate with relative strangers, who may well become friends.

    I think the way the language filter operates (here and elsewhere) is completely fecked up (more of which later,) but I think the principle and intent behind it is correct. It is intended to remove the cause of unnecessary (and sometimes inadvertent) offence to the sensibilities of the readers, and as such, has a legitimate place on any forum.

    The use of terms which we are informed are offensive, towards certain individuals, demographics, ethic groups, and nationalities, is an indication of crassness and a desire to cause distress. The inadvertent use is excusable, (who can know every national linguistic protocol?) but once we are informed, it is ill-mannered and boorish behaviour to persist. We induce our listeners to think less of our intellect, our values, and our upbringing.

    Of course exceptions apply when we know people quite well, and we use certain terms in jest. I have no objections to being called a Limey or a Pommy, in the course of light hearted banter, by my American and Australian friends here - nor should I. :)

    But it makes good sense to treat all people with respect and courtesy, whether we know them well or not. If one is unsure about a ideomatic term - use a more conventional one. Good manners dictate that we do not make others feel uncomfortable if we can help it. A slightly humorous description of a gentleman is someone who never gives offence unintentionally. :mrgreen:

    To return briefly to the profanity filter, it is my contention that it is sloppily designed, and operates in an illogical manner. I will demonstrate this by typing in the name of a major Yorkshire industrial township, and then tricking the filter so that you know the place to which I am referring.

    S(*)(*)(*)(*)horpe

    S-C-U-N-T-H-O-R-P-E

    Q.E.D.

    As you can see, the filter cannot even differentiate between a word, and a composite part of another word. Like how much programming intelligence does it take to require the filter to look for a space on either side of a word?
     
  18. Gwendoline

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    No, you are the ONLY one out of step in this thread. And you are the ONLY one using those racist, offensive words.

    The racist words you use so freely here would have you marginalised in the wider society.

    Use those words in the workplace and God help you. Use those words on the street and God help you. Just because you use the words in closeted, uncouth company, doesn't make the words less racist. The wider society will kick you in the bum for using those words, will marginalise you for using those words.

    By using those words you show your lack of respect for Aboriginals. They are racist terms. Defending those racist words is telling on you.
     
  19. efjay

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    We use the terms ABO and GIN all the time. At work, out in town, while picking em up off the road after they have drunk themselves stupid at the pub...
     
  20. philxx

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    Tom you old fool as always wise let them hang themselves let them show themselves and clean them up at your leisure is my thoughts exactly !are we scared of words or are we not brave and courageous humans.None of us created these terms we either choose to use them or not!:)

    I can be a bit crude at times when i get tired after 14-16hrs on a factory floor ,we are adults or most of us I think ages being displayed is a bigger question as young minds can be hurt more easily!

    The more I think about are not groups of humans somewhat self regulatory in their relationships?

    Do we need to be told by others what is correct and what is not!

    Surely to protect free speech it has to be just that Open and free they are only words and as my mother said and faced some names in her time.

    Sticks and stones can break my bones names will never harm me ,bring it on facsist scum but expect as good as you get!

    Concidering the autrocities that this world exists ,a bit of a storm in a tea cup!

    as always a thoughtfull perspective let them hang themselves a favourite saying of Lenins!
     
  21. cassandrabandra

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    true.

    and there are words that americans regard as profanities that the ret of the world considers maybe a little crude, but nothing more.

    I am often amazed at some of the words I do get away with ....
     
  22. cassandrabandra

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    people who resort to denigrating others on the basis of race also show no self respect.
     
  23. ian

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    Why does anyone even need to use these terms. Why is it so neccassary to categorise people in normal conversation unless there is a deliberate attempt to do so. In which case if it it neccassary to describe which person we are talking about wouldnt we be using the term aboriginal person or similar. Isnt this how normal people behave? Even some racist acquaintances of mine dont use these terms.
     
  24. Marlowe

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    That's it, - didnt think abt that . :) , we must never say anything which are likely to offend our hypersensitive Yankee cousins should we ( bt way - dont know the diff, between North-Southern -East-Westen - YANKS . - whether Whities or Darkies. - :mrgreen:

    cheers.
     
  25. Marlowe

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    :mrgreen:

    Noted - I'll just pick on skinny - poofs - woofters - faggets -sissies - pansies - wusses - + wimps.


    cheers.
     

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