Designs to drive away the homeless

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    The problem is many of the homeless don't want to get off the streets, and the crazies can't not be sequestered in good locked shelters for their protection while long term alternatives are sorted out.
     
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    Actually, the problems is not the will of the homeless. Let's not blame the victim. A multi-prong assault on them put them out in the streets. First, mental health clinics were defunded back in the 1980s, and now labor-intensive jobs are diminishing due to increased automation of that kind of work. Add to that a decrease in the need for full-time labor as good jobs were moved overseas for cheap labor, AND add to that the fact that the big producers can't sell all that they can produce, making declining consumption a problem and resulting in low job growth.

    It is not the homeless, but our economic system that is causing and worsening the problem.
     
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    Huh? First at what? Do you mean first in mixed housing? Did that!
     
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    You are correct in part, but as I said, many of the homeless do not want to come in from the cold. That is the truth, Kode, and your opinion does not change it.
     
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    Not to worry, that's what our corporate for profit privatized prisons with convict labor leasing are for.
     
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    Living in a building full of subsidized apartments. No thanks!
     
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    My opinion doesn't try to change it. They don't want to "come in from the cold" for reasons. Just ask them. They will tell you some of their reasons. And they won't tell you some others, like mental troubles.
     
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    That part you have right.
     
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    ...homeless just need section of concrete and they are good to go. (L.A.)
     
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    Dunno, don't think L.A.'s 50k people living in Tents, cardboard boxes and on the ground like it. Maybe some, but you would have to a survey and ask them to find out.

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    It would make a good study. Go poll 2000 of them and see if your premise holds true. I don't like talking to people, I only photograph them, so it is not a job for me. It is a job for a talker.
     
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    This gal was lucky. She had a nice concrete bench to sleep on. But she died a short time after I shot this..

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    Candid photo...said I don't like talking to people.
     
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    Mixed housing has only a few subsidized apartments
     
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    Which is enough to turn it into a sewer.
     
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    And I. Bet you don’t think you have a bigoted bone...after all in your world poor people are disgusting people.
     
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    No, I have just seen and cleaned up the aftermath of section 8 apartments. Invariably, it is a disaster, requiring major work to be livable again.
     
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    Yep, “they” are all the same.
     
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    Fourteen S8 apartments, fourteen disasters.
     
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    And I had the opposite experiences in Brooklyn.....
     
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    He must like it, since he's spending money on alcohol, cigarettes, and a smart phone. ​
     
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    You're missing the psych 101. Long term poverty is secondary to the primary problem (laziness, addiction, whatever). When you understand that, you understand that such people are necessarily 'problematic'.
     
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    Terrible idea. All heavily subsidised housing should be outside of cities.
     
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    With respect, you're delusional if you think that the entrenched rough sleeper is going to be magically cured by such programs.

    The only way to sort the wheat from the chaff is to offer FULL care (housing, meals, healthcare etc), in remote and rural areas, conditional upon full time work on site. Zero tolerance for drugs and alcohol. Some will take it, others won't. Those who won't, are volunteering to remain homeless, so would be ineligible for any kind of assistance beyond the basics traditionally available. They would also, necessarily, be exempt from 'pity', having turned down full care.
     
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    Yes, that's exactly what it should lead to. RURAL (isolated from what? the crap of the inner city? drugs? concrete?) communities, where previously homeless people have an opportunity to acquire the dignity and agency of work and a home. Providing the raw materials for a rural Tiny House Community, self sufficient, off grid, and ultimately self-funding, is not only the answer to an increasing homelessness problem, it's the logical future for vast swathes of humanity.

    FTR: homelessness has very little to do with an ever-in-flux economy. it's primarily a function of low expectations within a given culture/society, coupled with the increasing 'ease' of staying alive without ever having to lift a finger.
     
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