Designs to drive away the homeless

some cities banning people staying in vehicles overnight at Walmart, shouldn't that be walmarts choice?

 

if corporations were not so greedy you mean?

like I said, it's nice if family has enough to help out... not everyone is so lucky

we really need to raise the min wage so people are not living paycheck to paycheck just for the basic essentials to live

 

Yeah, sure. And when the dude comes back a week later with his hand out again?

 

Nothing to do with corporations. Corporations inject the capital we enjoy in our capitalist democracies.

This is a SOCIAL problem, and therefore a SOCIAL responsibility.

There is no 'luck' involved in solid and stable families who take care of their own. It's a deliberate choice, and act of will. It takes constant work and vigilance, for life. Calling it luck is both obnoxious, and revealing of a poor attitude to social responsibility.

 

What did you miss about the limits we have (not just my family, but many others who operate the same way) to helping?

I'll repeat it, since you clearly didn't catch it the two or three times I posted it:

In order to be helped by family, the person in need MUST be in a situation not of their own making (ie, they're broke because they spent all their money on fun, or gambling, or holidays, or drugs, or expensive shoes, or whatever), and they MUST be honourable, decent, clean-living, and hard working. Not negotiable. If we expect to be supported in life, we need to be genuine. It would be despicable to expect those who've worked hard to do the right thing, to give up their resources for us if we're not genuine. Truly despicable.

Goes without saying that the same is true in reverse. Since we all potentially help each other at some point, we all need to be responsible, stable, decent, hard working, etc.

 

too many greedy mega corps today sadly

 

Who can only take your money if you first offer it to them.

 

when almost all corps do it, the public doesn't have a choice

it's like saying we should have no traffic laws, you can only get hurt if you drive on public roads - they are private cars and we should not have laws telling people how to drive - that would be ridiculous, we need traffic laws

 

so be incredibly discerning about which corps, and how much, you volunteer your money to.

 

any that outsource most of their jobs overseas

 

There you go. We can all vote with our wallets.

 

And if the minimum wage was raised, then so would the price of everything, and the cycle would repeat.
Ever see a homeless person panhandling at the entrance to Walmart holding up a sign "Will work for food"?
I was riding with a friend of mine who owns a construction company and he offered such a homeless person a days work cleaning up the site of a house he's just completed. The homeless guy just took his sign and walked away.

 

And the American consumer is to blame because of the constant demand that, "It must be cheap", and the only way they could make it cheaper was lowering their labor costs, meaning they moved their manufacturing overseas.
Now we are seeing the results of the consumers demands; there are no manufacturing jobs anymore.

 

Here's another article about so-called "hostile architecture"
Anti-Homeless Device Examples - Hostile Architecture | IE (interestingengineering.com)

I will include a description of some of the pictures, in case the link stops working in the future.

One picture shows a slightly raised platform grating over a sewer, along the sidewalk, but apparently just to prevent any homeless from thinking about laying down there like a bed, there are squiggly lengths of metal bars obviously bolted over, to form a sort of "spiked" surface. Half-disguised as an artistic design.
Another picture shows a spike strip on the ground, under an awning.
Another picture shows a bench that is slanted and slopped, obviously very narrow, that people could barely even sit on; certainly it would be impossible to lie down on it. It looks very uncomfortable, like people would not even want to try sitting there very long.
Another picture shows armrests installed on benches, actually there to prevent anyone from laying down on the bench.
Then another picture showing a length coarse rocks and stones replacing pavement up against a building, apparently to try to deter anyone from sleeping near the building.
Another picture shows a metal bench that is curved outwards, so it would be impossible for anyone to lie down on it.

Hostile architecture, otherwise known as anti-homeless architecture, is a form of architectural design to prevent or impede crime and help maintain order. The strategy uses the built environment to discourage malcontents from using public spaces for activities that they were not intended to be used for. ​

In other places that are putting fencing around grates to try to deny the homeless from huddling around them as a heat source.
Another example is placing boulders under bridges, to make the surface rougher and deter anyone from sleeping under there.

 

All great ideas!

 

If Reservations are good enough for the Indians, then they're good enough for the "homeless" (snicker).

Take some federal land in Wyoming, Montana or North Dakota and make a homeless reservation.

Divide it into three compounds: one for the mentally ill, and one each for male and female substance abusers.

The mentally ill can roam around and not bother anyone or destroy people's property. If they take their meds for 3 years, they can be moved over to the substance abuse compounds, and if they continue to take their meds for another 2 years, start them on job-training and then after 3 years, release them with the understanding that if they don't continue to take their meds, they'll be back at the reservation for the rest of their lives.

If the substance abusers don't want to eat oatmeal for breakfast, liverwurst sandwiches for lunch and bean soup for dinner, they'll have to work by farming, growing vegetables and raising chickens and pigs and cows. They'll dry out, learn a valuable skill, and the ones who show promise can get job-training for other skills and after 7 years they'll be released with the understanding that if they ever get picked up again they'll be there the rest of their lives.

That'll end the "homeless" (snicker) problem.

 

Ask the Democratic officials of Portland and Seattle how to drive off poor black people as they are the most proven experts in the world at it.

 

I can see there's not much sympathy in this thread.

 

On the contrary, most of us a very sympathetic - in regards to the hard working citizens of these places. Citizens who have to not only carry these bums via taxation, but step in excrement and live in fear of discarded syringes.

 

My sympathy burned up with $50,000 worth of trailers and $15,000 worth of scrap aluminum at work a few years ago.