Destroy All Christian Churches?

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  1. Onward James

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    Destroy All the Churches - Clifford May... and remove the Jews as well...

    Who leads Islam? Shi'a: The Ayatollah of Iran? Sunni: The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arbaia? Both leaders desire to diminish Christianity or worse. Both leaders want to remove the Jews from the earth.

    Where is the mainstream media reporting the egregious acts? I read the article by Clifford May in the National Post, at least.

    Forget about the UN, United Nutbars who allowed the Muslim Nations to infiltrate, even in the Human Rights. certain representatives were likely paid off by the Saudis and Iranians to blame the Israelis regarding the Palestinians. That and the UN were threatened less oil, more expensive or none at all.


    "...when Abdulaziz ibn Abdullah Al al-Sheikh, the grand mufti of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, declares that it is "necessary to destroy all the churches in the Arabian Peninsula," the major media do not see this as even worth reporting? And no one, to the best of my knowledge, has noted that he said this to the members of a terrorist group." Clifford May

    Destroy All the Churches - Clifford May
    http://www.defenddemocracy.org/media-hit/destroy-all-the-churches/
     
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    Who says Islam isn't peaceful?
     
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    The [not existing] reaction of the people is also very interesting. If the Holy Father had said "It is necessary to destroy all the mosques in the Italian Peninsula" then the most people woud believe they had a problem with their ears and some would write tons of electronic letters full of hate on the catholic church.

    http://youtu.be/z0IKx3ibt8g
     
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    Assuming that the people there that are regarded as Christians are indeed truly converted people, are they taking the matter to God? You see since Jesus is the one that started His Church any attack or assault against His people is an assault or an attack against Jesus, which is also an attack against God. God's people should look to God for their defense and not man......it is He who fights for them if they asked Him to intervene. I am not saying anyone that is not a Christian who is being persecuted there suffering should be ignored. But in these reports we don’t read what are Christians whom are being persecuted doing in the petitioning God’s intervention. As I heard it said in Church once or twice, Christians march on their knees, meaning that we move forward when we take our concerns and petition to God. The next thing is that Jesus said if His people are being persecuted in one City/place, they should flee to another……don’t stand around and suffer persecution if you have an option to leave. And another thing, Christians today are too defragmented……we are not united as it was in the early days of the Church.

    As for Iran, most people seem not to know that there are Jews living in Iran. So if the President of Iran wanted to kill off all the Jews they would have started with those who live in Iran. He never said what the media is saying that he said.....they twist his words and interpret it the way they want. The media is just doing what it has always been going…..playing the drum beat for war with Iran, which is guaranteed to cause the price for a barrel of oil to skyrocket. Are Americans willing to pay $10.00 an average or more for gas at the pump?
     
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    Jesus did not start his Church .
    Have your beliefs but don't twist history to suit your selfish needs .
    There is nothing of spirit that Jesus believed that those who went before him did not first believe .
    John the Baptist was the son of Zechariah who was himself the heir to Zadok , and , as you should know , their authority lay in being the priestly dynasty
    From the time of King David .
    Jesus had nothing to say that he did not learn from his older cousin John . John was the successor to Hillel the first Teacher and Pope of the early Christian Church .
    The bible , is a redacted History of the times following this period ..........

    You do not even know the history of those times , let alone the dynastic movements between the King and the Preaching dynasties .
    It's a disgrace .
     
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    Persecution is what caused the early Christian church to prosper in spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ. "The will hate you as they hated Me first" (my para).

    And, to walk as Christ on this earth as His body ('Christian' meaning, little Christ) , then to identify with Him, His followers are told to 'rejoice in their tribulations."

    Something we fat & comfortable American Christians cant identify with! Merely an Inet post slamming them will drive them away as from 'persecution.'

    If one reads Foxe's Book of Martyrs, about the history of Christian martyrdom thru the 16th century, you will see most of the Christians had the opportunity to change their 'confession' but chose martyrdom. They desired also ( in the OT) as mentioned in Hebrews, a 'more perfect resurrection:'

    Hebrews 11:35
    Others were tortured and refused to be released, so that they might gain a better resurrection.

    For the Christian, it is walking as Christ did, even to the point of identifying with His physical death.
     
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    The Saudis ignored this mufti, why don't you?
     
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    Well, it did cause the spread of Christianity around the world, which did contribute significantly to the civilizing of the world even though most of the message that Jesus told them to preach has been neglected.
     
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    "Making" Christianity the 'state relgion' is what started it's watering down and an impotence to the main msg in many cases...
     
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    That's how Satan works and Christians should have expected this since Jesus told His disciples that false Christians would come. Satan knows he can't destroy God's Church, so the next best thing is to counterfeits it…..and it is still going on today.
     
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    The antichrist spirit around back then, was and is a countrfeit of Christ, besides being the antithesis of Him as well.....and seeks to devour the child (offspring) of the woman (bride or church) in birth
     
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    Yes, and it's going to happen again.....there is going to be a worldwide State counterfeit Christianity that will unit itself with world government that will persecute God's people around the world.
     
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    As in 2 Tim 3: End Times

    "....those holding to a form of godliness, but denying the power there of"...aka, denying 'the power of God,' the Holy Spirit.
     
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    Any time someone tries to mandate a religion or seriously condemn it, bad things tend to happen. The best thing to do is to just not even ask or care what someone's religious affiliation is because frankly it shouldn't matter. The only real way that religions differ is there belief on death, and nobody can bother you when they are dead. WHAT? Did I just solve everyone's problems? Cool.
     
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    Yes, there life does not show that they are what they claim to be.....they still live as if they are not believers.
     
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    Oh yeah.. I agree.

    When you attack a religion, you only strengthen it.. and drive people towards more rigid forms.
     
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    Exactly. You can't alienate people like that. Freedom of religion works just fine with truly religious people. But then you have these people that CLAIM to be religious and all they do is alienate and drive people to hate that religion. Thats why I've been telling christians for years to just leave everyone else the hell alone and live and let live.
     
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    Thank you.

    The Saudis don't care about this old f*rt.. but you will note that Abu the Egyptian does.
     
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    Nearly nothing is comparable between the bible and the quran. So what do you compare exactly now?

    http://youtu.be/BKf9D-5InJs
     
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    Are you blind? The Sauds are Wahabits - the Taliban are Wahabits. The terrorists who destroyed the WTC were Saudi-Arabians. Bin Laden was a Saudi-Arabian. The main religion in the area Arabia, North Africa - not so in the Turk nations if I'm well informed - was the christian religion. And although the South-East parts of the ancient roman empire was much more developed than the north-western parts - the Okzident became the leading modern civilization and culture in this world - while the Orient lost the own cultural power in the same way it "lost" (fought and wan) the Christians.

    It's by the way a unbelievable sin to try to destroy - even only with words - any temple, place or symbol of any religion in this world. If I'm right then the terror that caused the western "war on terror" started not directly with the destruction of the money-temple WTC - it started with the destruction of buddha statues in Afghanistan.

    http://youtu.be/nWDqG0IvGRc
     
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    The Taliban are deobandi.. Osama Bin Laden was Yemeni and followed the teaching of Sayiid Qutb.. The rest of your claim seems to be gibberish.
     
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    Margot, shame on you for coming across as if you know, as if you are right there in the inner circle — unless you get paid by them in certain Islamic organizations that you belong to or did.

    They feed off each other in Arabia. Are you aware of how much money is paid to clerics and supposed leaders, not just to promote, but to keep them off the manipulative family's back.

    Frankly, most Muslim leaders are forked tongue, except for Iran, Saudi Arabia etc where they stand with Christians and Jews.

    Too often they condemn outrageous acts, as they applaud them privately and to their own people.

    But go ahead keep on countering and showing not only how limited you are, how egregious. I am surprised you live ion America and unless they, they being Muslims, cover your expenses and pay you to read forums and make asinine comments.
     

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