Destroy America!!!

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by RoanokeIllinois, Jul 10, 2022.

  1. AARguy

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    You have obviously never run into a vicious burglar or rapist. You seem to think that the bad guys are woke and can be deterred by a simple "time out". Dogs are not bullet proof. Neither are you. And the burglar's gun has a lot more range than your baseball bat.
     
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    This is the first time I have seen movie reviews as indicative of political ideology.
     
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    You still dont get it.
    If you don't insure your stuff you need your head examining.
    If you do, you don't lose anything If your stuff is stolen.
    And finally it is not your right to pronounce the death penalty on a thief which is not what the law would pronounce. You have therefore created your own law over and above your national or state law .
    That is a long way towards the tyranny you want to prevent....where you ignore the law.
    The whole point is DETERRANCE, to make a thief go somewhere else.
    YOU DONT HAVE TO KILL SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO STEAL YOUR INSURED STUFF.
    You only have to prevent it..
    The issue is how you do that.
    It doesn't have to be by KILLING them!
     
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    Why do you keep repeating what I just showed you is not true?
    You are not debating. You are declaring .
     
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    How can you say that you don't follow anyone blindly when you've clearly scratched off anybody with a "D" behind their name? That automatically means you are following whatever "R". Can you not see how that is contradictory to your claim? Seriously? Please reread what you posted. It's not a big flashing neon sign to you that it's false?
     
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    You are obviously quite young. Your position that "insurance" makes it all ok is quite childish. Insurance COSTS and when claims are made due to some thief's actions, insurance rates go up. It costs. You are obviously part of the adolescent population that thinks everything is free. Maybe you won't change your mind about defending yourself and your property until you become a victim of heft or the woman in your life gets raped. In any case, your obvious lack of experience in life won't be solved in this forum. It will take years. It takes years for everyone to learn how to get along in life and a few posts on an internet forum cannot provide that. Only time can provide what you need. So good luck growing up kid. Bye.
     
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    Donald failed in many ways, for example properly handling the Covid pandemic.
    Joe Biden was only elected, because the people wanted to get rid of crooked Donald.
     
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    Anarchy, is what the Democrat Politicians want. If they take away guns from law abiding citizens, then we can't protect ourselves as easily.

    But even criminals with guns, are more scared, when We the People have guns shooting back at them, if they're trying to break into our houses or do something illegal, such as trying to injure others.

    What criminals aren't afraid of, is people without weapons.
     
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    There should be a Democrat Political book of Politically correct woke Definitions, and then the actual real term Definition book.
    That way, so many Democrats wouldn't be as confused. Especially, since, Democrats keep changing the definitions of words. Especially, on Liberal ran sites, such as wikipedia. Wich for some reason, Democrats actually believe is non-partisan. lol.
     
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    If you don't like what is written in WIKI you can register and correct it.
    I shall look out for one of your edited entrées.
     
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    They want anarchy to the the point where they have to assume total control "for our own good".
     
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    Pro America isn't Democrat or progressive right now. It's conservative or republican. Or you havn't been paying attention. America, **** ya. You WILL suck on my democracy. Biden is not my president but he is the current president. Trump were in charge, he'd have gotten more heavy handed with Putin so thank your stars he isn't.

    Of course, Putin wouldn't even be trying this bullshit had Trump gotten elected. But make no mistake, Republican or Democratic, Putin can **** off with his authoritarian bs.
     
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    Even military personnel would be weary of a citizen with a gun. It wouldn't be cut and dry. Guerrilla warfare is no fun for anyone involved.
     
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    The problem is that you don't know the motives of someone in your home until they leave.
     
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    It is not your right to decide on the punishment for any crime. Nor do you know their circumstances.
    That is why you have laws and courts.
    The idea that you kill someone because you don't insure material items is astounding.
    And indeed you don't know what they want. They may be lost or needing help. They may be kids like the two who killed the elderly man with a traffic cone.
    You just cannot go around shooting people!
     
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    It wouldn't be guérilla warfare . It would be outright slaughter.
    Have you seen some of the military hardware in Ukraine? Then add air force, navy and marines plus specialists in communications.
    Résistance would be wiped out in weeks.
     
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    It's your right to protect your family, if you have one, and ensure no harm comes to them. If someone is in your home uninvited they need to leave. If they don't, you can use whatever force you want to remove them. When they know that, they'll think twice before entering. It's a great deterrent.

    That's far different than "just going around shooting people" which is anon sequitur.
     
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    You mean like it has in Ukraine? Or was in Vietnam?

    Military personnel are people too. They might eventually win, but it would be at a great cost. It's a great deterrent to tyranny no matter how you color it.
     
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    I'm not going around shooting people. An intruder in my house could be there to just take stuff, to do harm to me and my family, or he could decide in mid stuff taking to hurt me or my family. The key indicator in my mind would be if he stays downstairs taking stuff or if he comes upstairs where my family is. Stay downstairs: take the stuff and try to beat the cops. Come upstairs: get shot.

    We do not owe intruders the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    It is up to you to protect your property.
    And that is not a metaphor for shooting them.
    It just happens to be the first thing that pops into your head. Cultural habit.
     
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    The point is, you would be a minor inconvenience.
     
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    You don't know what the first thing that pops into my head is, but certainly if someone has bad intentions and forces themself into my home, I will warn them once, well in advance, if there is time for it.

    If someone forces themselves into your home, and they get shot, that is you protecting your property and family. They know they shouldn't have forced themselves in. The excuse that they maybe need help doesn't fly. They can knock and ask for help.

    If they want to play stupid games, then they may win stupid prizes.
     
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    Like the people in Ukraine are? How many months in are we? You just can't lump it into one sentence like that. I mean, you can, but it wouldn't reflect the reality.

    Do you think Military personnel will not consider that their lives may be, and will be, lost too? How about Afghanistan? Were they a minor 20 year inconvenience too?

    In reality, it just doesn't work the way you think it does.
     
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    Correct.
     
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    Then your intruders are stupid.
    If they want stuff they will want to be gone as fast as possible.
    Look. We have theft too. Quite likely But we don't have guns. Nor do we have thieves turned personal attackers.
    We have knives. Knives make a great deterrent without the probability of killing someone. I have already listed other ways of preventing crime INCLUDING à decent police force.
     

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