Disinformation and shills

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There is no evidence it was an inside job nor have you posted any links to such evidence.

    Opinions are not evidence and this is all your links lead one to.

    A few other fringe weirdos have the same opinion and you accept that as evidence.

    Much like your stunning lack of evidence that the lunar landings were faked, much like your endless evasion and running away from any questions or direct challenges to your posts in that section you have nothing here.
     
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  3. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't have to search the secret vault where they keep the space aliens and Elvis.

    You can see what I searched right there in the url. Tom+Sullivan. It's not hidden. It's not deleted. It's not buried. It's right there to read.

    ?

    Which information do you expect casual viewers to come across at any given moment on a date driven thread listing? If the thread drops off the main page who's fault is that? How much clear evidence was driven off the main page of this forum by your thread spamming compatriot RWF? Beyond that, what casual observers would even find the conspiracy section of jref without "searching" for it first? Do you just happen to stumble into debate threads randomly?

    I asked you this once before, but I might as well waste some time and ask it again. You do realize that this very insistence that your threads are deleted by people who want to suppress the truth is your attempt to solve the dissonance between reality and your truth?

    You do not have concrete evidence that your evidence "pretty much stays buried" because the forum hosts don't want it to be read. You don't have concrete evidence that the people who disagree with you are paid to do so. You don't have concrete evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.

    What you have are all cognitive leaps that you have taken in order to resolve your preconceived notions that are dissonant with reality...

    1. My posts get deleted 2. My posts are true. 3. Therefore forum hosts are afraid of my posts.

    1. People disagree with me. 2. No one would disagree with truth. 3. Therefore people are paid to lie to me.

    I don't find the official story credible, therefor there is a massive conspiracy to cover up the truth...
    Shall I go on with your dissonances or do you get the point?
     
  4. BullsLawDan

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    And yet fewer and fewer people are active in your so-called movement or belong to the pathology known as 9/11 Denial.

    Again... If you are correct, we're talking about a conspiracy that killed over 3,000 Americans.

    Surely they would have no qualms about "disappearing" someone like you.

    Suppose for an instant the government is actively paying people to "dispute" your posts. If they're spending money on that, why wouldn't they just spend money to shut down forums like this one, or have your internet service turned off, or just kill you?



    Fangbeer is right about the cognitive dissonance of your kind. But he forgets one big one... 9/11 Deniers believe there is a secret conspiracy that killed over 3,000 American civilians in a brutal attack, launched us into wars killing twice as many soldiers, changed our laws, toppled dictators, set up patsies to take the blame, etc. A huge, evil, powerful conspiracy, for sure.

    And yet, this super-evil, super-powerful conspiracy is simultaneously incapable of shutting up a small group of navel-gazers on the internet that discovered the "truth" about what happened and are successfully posting about it, hosting online radio shows, having PUBLIC CONVENTIONS, selling books, having meetings, and everything else the 9/11 Deniers do.
     
  5. Kokomojojo

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    What fun would that be?

    whats a 911 denier?
     
  6. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    You call them truthers.

    Denier is more accurate since they deny truth
     
  7. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    I'm sure they only delete the ones that get too close for comfort...ones the shills don't like discussing.
     
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    If you did even a little honest research, you would discover that 9/11 isn't the only massacre under false flag committed by those in power.
     
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    Logical fallacy. Merely because our government has been involved in conspiracies or bad acts before does not do anything to prove that they were involved in 9/11.

    9/11 Deniers are approaching an average of more than one logical failure per post. It's an impressive track record of illogic, really. I mean, Fraud managed one in just one sentence.
     
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    No...it doesn't It does however, indicate that they're quite capable of it, in my estimation.

    On the other hand, you have very strict allegiance to your goobmint propaganda, and never question anything. All they spew is perfectly acceptable, to you.
    I think that says it all really.
     
  12. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You just complained that the material witnesses to the event were "disappeared." If an American government conspiracy to murder Americans isn't secret, why hasn't a single conspirator stepped forward? Not one person has come forward who claims to have wired a building. Not one person has come forward who claims to have falsified video, or planted evidence, or Photoshopped an official photo, or doctored audio with cloned voices, or participated in the planning, or built a dr evil space laser, or participated in any other hair brained scheme the truth movement has come up with.

    If it's not secret, you do you assert that I'm paid to keep it secret? Does that make any sense at all? Nope.

    You just agreed with examples of cognitive leaps that truthers make to resolve their own cognitive dissonances. They are obvious fallacious arguments. If you are someone that thinks they are logical arguments then it's clear that you don't know what a logical argument is, and you don't know how to argue a logical point.
     
  13. BullsLawDan

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    So what?

    I acknowledge they're capable of doing horrible things.

    Do you understand that does not provide any evidence, or prove, whether there was a conspiracy here?

    Simple example: I am "quite capable" of kicking a red playground ball over my back fence. I've done it in lots of backyard games of kickball.

    But I sure as (*)(*)(*)(*) didn't do it yesterday (It was 92 here, I didn't do anything outside). And if you find my red playground ball on the other side of the fence, you haven't proven I put it there if all you can show is that I am capable of doing it.

    Get it?

    Well, it doesn't say it "all", but what it does say is that you are incapable of arguing without using logical fallacy. You've used two in just this one post. Argument from tradition/history (above), and now this one, the Strawman.

    Do you understand why what you said is a logical fallacy, and how that makes it most likely incorrect? Yes or no.
     
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    Moreover, not one of "us", his supposed "paid shills", has come forward to say we are such. There must be thousands of us, to keep up with the 9/11 deniers everywhere on the internet. And their recruiting must be continuous.

    And yet, not one person has said "someone from the government tried to hire me/hired me to post stuff about 9/11"
     
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    They offered to pay me, but I said I'd do it for free. :wink:

    "The sea comes in at midnight, I repeat, the sea comes in a midnight."
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My hovercraft is full of eels.
     
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    You got a hovercraft??!?!?! Oh, snap! They only gave me a pony.
     
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    I once had a hovercraft. I'd show you a photo but it was confiscated.
     
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    candy corn said he was a paid shill many times, LOL
     
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  22. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    there is no evidence for HIM because HE always closes his eyes and covers his ears like ALL conicidence theorists do since they only see what they WANT to see and ignore and lie about events since it does not go along with the governments version.:-D:mrgreen:
     
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    that would be someone who is afraid of the truth that it was an inside job.:mrgreen:
     
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    yep.no doubt about that,thats for sure.
     
  25. 9/11 was an inside job

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    of course paid shills arent going to come forward and admit it.:mrgreen: shills lie all the time about 9/11 in their posts ,they sure as hell are not going to admit it on message boards.duh.great logic you have.:mrgreen: oh and just like with the people in the government who pulled off 9/11,they are very careful with the people they select to post propaganda on message boards,they make sure that they are just the same kind of people who pulled off 9/11,evil and corrupt and dont care about the lives of people and will do ANYTHING for money.plus these people know if they talk,they will wind up dying a mysterious death so since they only care about money anyways,they'll gladly keep quiet.duh. oh and expect in the future years for people with government connections to come out and admit they were involved.

    Look at the kennedy assassination.for years,E HOWARD HUNT,a CIA operative,denied he was ever in dallas that day,the last few days before he died,he made a death bed confession that his son recored that he WAS in dallas that day and that the CIA was behind it all.expect the same thing to happen in a couple decades or so with others involved in 9/11 as well.Man your posts are ignorant.yep.
     

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