DNC strategy 2012: winning With Out Whites (WOW!)

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  1. Bluesguy

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    They did nothing of the sort, they went right back to the Democrat Party and were all reelected as Democrats and served as Democrats in high positions.
     
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    Please look at general election results in the South for the last 30 years. Please look at which party dominates the South.
     
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    The Dixiecrats have been gone for 50 years. Please look at what party dominated the South during the civil rights battles and which party from which the Dixiecrats came and where they went back to after they lost the election.
     
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    The Dixiecrats are no more because they were largely absorded into the GOP.
     
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    They were no more 50 years ago, you don't know what you are talking about. And the ALL were reelected as Democrats and served for many more years as Dixiecrats. The only one who switched was Thurmond and that was years later AFTER the civil rights battles and he switched to the party THAT WON THE BATTLE! His switch had nothing to do with the Civil Rights or Voting Rights Acts and his previous opposition, he wouldn't have been welcome in the Republican party then.
     
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    You are so clueless.
     
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    I was Vice-President of the Teenage Republicans in 1968 in a major Southern City. I think I have a clue. One of the main reasons I joined the Republicans was because it was the Democrats who supported segregation.

    I think I have a clue and you apparently do not. The Dixiecrats ran in 1948 and lost, they ALL went right back into the Democrat Party and were ALL reelected as Democrats and continue to serve in high office and as leaders of the Democrat party for years.

    Now if you think you can refute my statement then do so with facts, your ignorance of them certainly does not do so.
     
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    As stated earlier ALL my Gray Hair Democrat relitives in the South (Texas ,Alabama... Remain to this day Democrats, or were until they died ( Reagan Democrats, Blue Dog Democrats & George Wallace 1972 Democrats)
     
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    The South is only recently Republican on the local and state level and Congressional level. The Democrats have so brainwashed people that many think it was the Democrat party that fought for Civil Rights and Voting Rights when in fact they fought them tooth and nail for decades and even repealed the measures the Republicans did pass when they were in control. They were Populist Democrats along the lines of a John Edwards, and they were segregationist.
     
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    But the Kennedy's changed all that, and Johnson supported their agenda after them. That's when the penduluum didn't swing, but lerched, and the Republicans moved in on the south and have embraced it ever since, fundamentally changing the character of the two parties for now over fifty years.
     
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    Except the Democrats Kept all the Gray Hair Kluxer types like Byrd ...:winner:
     
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    Who notably denounced his former involvement with the group and showed it to be more than lip service with his voting record.
    The Republicans, in contrast, embraced Strom Thurmond, Trent Lott, Bob Barr and Lester Maddox, all who proudly made presentations before the well-documented hate group The Council of Conservative Citizens, and made many well documented racist gaffs in long careers supporting the white southern community.
    Do you really want all these quotes cited?
    The parties began to flop in 1948 with the first of the civil rights laws passing, creating a splinter group trying to hang on called the "Dixiecrats". But with Kennedy and Johnson, they knew the Democratic party had taken a stand, and they left the party in droves for the party that would still embrace their racist views in exchange for votes.
     
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    The Democrats remained the power of the Segregationists & Klan ( See George Wallace 1972 Presidential Primary Victories Including Michigan & Florida
     
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    The death rasps of a dying breed.
     
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    Jimmy Carter won in 76 WITH THOSE RASPS ... lol:omg:
     
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    A homegrown president was too good to pass up. Since then, crickets.
     
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    A Homegrown Closet Maoist with serious anti-Semite/Anti-Zionist leanings (Wow that sounds familure today)
     
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    So you think the South is now a Marxist clan?
    Hard to keep up with the ramblings in your head.
     
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    Carter turned out to be the worst president in history and is now eternally grateful that the massively incompetent, incumbent, idiot, clown, fool, socio/communist, academic, inexperienced, bho has supplanted Carter as the worst president in history. No future generations will remember who the second worst president was, but they will remember that bho was the worst ever by a wide margin.
    Your current horribly misplaced pride will turn to shame for decades to come.
     
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    Didn't really start to change until Reagan which was as much to do with Carter who swept the South and then was a terrible President. The demographics had been changing with northerners moving in and the younger generations of Southerns rejecting the populist/liberal Democrats still recalling their support fore segregation.
     
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    The Dixiecrats themselves were a reaction to where the Democratic Party had gone. They became a remnant in the South because the party had left them.
     
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    They weren't there yet and wouldn't be for another 15 years. The Dixiecrats went right back to the Democrat party and were all reelected as Democrats and served in high positions in the Democrat party. It took another 20 years before state and local representations began to change but then it had nothing to do with racial issues. Those battles long over and most of the actors gone or no longer active or supported.
     
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    Follow the money.
    Support from the national party coffers dried up for the racist element running in the South. They went where the money was, and the Republicans were happy to supply it.
    Strom Thurmond, Trent Lott et.al. became the political leaders of the South. Racist Republicans that rose high in the party structure. They would have no home in the Democratic Party.

    The States' Rights Democratic Party (usually called the Dixiecrats) was a short-lived segregationist political party in the United States in 1948. It originated as a breakaway faction of the Democratic Party in 1948, determined to protect what they portrayed as the southern way of life beset by an oppressive federal government,[1] and supporters assumed control of the state Democratic parties in part or in full in several Southern states. The States' Rights Democratic Party opposed racial integration and wanted to retain Jim Crow laws and white supremacy in the face of possible federal intervention. Members were called Dixiecrats. (The term Dixiecrat is a portmanteau of Dixie, referring to the Southern United States, and Democrat.)

    The party did not run local or state candidates and after the 1948 election as its leaders generally returned to the Democratic Party.[2] The Dixiecrats had little short-run impact on politics. However, they did have a long-term impact. The Dixiecrats began the weakening of the "Solid South" (the Democratic Party's total control of presidential elections in the South).[3] (From Wikipedia)

    If your post is correct, then 1948 is fifteen years after?
    Somethings missing in your calculations.
     
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    They went nowhere except out of power, they were no longer around when the state and local shifts began to have any influence. Republicans NEVER supported segregation or denial of voting rights.

    Thurmond was the only one of any importance who switched and it had nothing to do with racial issues, why would he move to the party that won that battle, that had fought him on that issue for so long if it still mattered to him?

    I am a Southerner, I know all about the Dixiecrats.

    What weakened the Democrats control was a change of generations and a move from the North to the South and the Democrats running weak liberal Northeasterners. When the ran Carter they held on a little longer but by then the South was on a track to conservatism and Reagan was just the man to win it for the Republicans on the national level. The shift on the local and state level is much more recent.

    When the Democrats finally gave in and voted with Republicans for Civil Rights.
     
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    Why would Thurmond move? Because the people that supported his mindset had moved.
    Look, I don't care if you want to believe that the Democrats moving away from the racist roots had nothing to do with the switch. It does me no harm for you to fabricate this tale. The effects of the switch were sudden and immediate and predicted by Johnson when he signed the civil rights legislation and announced "We've lost the South for the next fifty years", and he was right.
     

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