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Do Americans Support Impeaching President Trump?

Discussion in 'United States' started by MrTLegal, Oct 3, 2019.

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well then it's good we're investigating it to get to the truth eh.
     
    vman12, Oct 3, 2019
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    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    You keep thinking I'm trying to defend the Biden's. I'm not. I'm attacking you for excusing Trump for doing the same types of things you're accusing Biden of doing.
     
    Junkieturtle, Oct 3, 2019
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So was Donald Trump.

    Honesty would require you to acknowledge that if it was fine to investigate Trump, it's fine to investigate Biden.

    There is no quid pro quo on Trumps call. There is clear quid pro quo on the tape of Biden.

    I know, let's release all of the last administrations phone calls to Ukraine.

    That way we can compare the level of quid pro quo.
     
    vman12, Oct 3, 2019
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  4. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clearly not the same.

    Trump, at no point, said he was going to withhold aid if Biden wasn't investigated. You're inferring it from the conversation.

    Biden, however, clearly did.
     
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    vman12, Oct 3, 2019
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  5. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    You typing this means you haven't been reading what I've been saying. I'll say it once more, in caps for clarity. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH INVESTIGATING THE BIDEN'S.

    Release it all. I have no problem with that either. My point is and has always been that you don't get to give a pass to Trump while calling out the people you don't like. That's what I've been saying. It's what I've been trying to tell you Trump supporters for over 3 years. Liking Trump does not excuse his behavior, and you should have known better because his behavior has been no secret for decades.
     
    Junkieturtle, Oct 3, 2019
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  6. vman12

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    Oh I read you saying that, I also read you continue to talk about "investigating a political opponent" at the same time.

    Clearly you haven't been reading what I've been saying:

    It is not the same.

    No quid pro quo on Trump's call.

    Quid pro quo on Biden's video.
     
    vman12, Oct 3, 2019
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  7. Junkieturtle

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    Trump was already withholding the aid, most likely to boost his position when he calls to ask for a favor against his political opponent. And then after the Ukrainian phone call, he stops. And today he's asking China to do the same thing he asked the Ukraine to do. That demonstrates a pattern.
     
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    Junkieturtle, Oct 3, 2019
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    That's not why they are investigating it, it's smoke and mirrors to get the heat off Trump.
     
    superbadbrutha, Oct 3, 2019
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  9. Professor Peabody

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    The independents are the ones you need to worry about jumping the shark with. 58.3% do not support impeachment, please carry one and put Trump back in the White House for 4 more years.
     
    Professor Peabody, Oct 3, 2019
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    That demonstrates a pattern with looking into how Hunter Biden, who had zero skills or experience in either market, was making billions with his dad as the VP.
     
    vman12, Oct 3, 2019
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  11. MrTLegal

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    The independents are the ones that should concern you. They had the single largest increase in support for impeachment among all three of the groups.
     
    MrTLegal, Oct 3, 2019
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    He absolutely did as his son was getting a sham job on a board being paid $600,000 a year when even the biggest companies in the US pay less than half that.
    Should we talk about China giving trademarks to Ivanka Trump after Trump won the Presidency as well?

    Which Trump and the State Department were doing with a new incoming Ukraine government.

    There has been no thurough investigation as Biden interfered in it and there was none on our side. Time to start one. Biden lied about never discussing business with his son which shows he trying to hide something. Time for a Special Counsel.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 3, 2019
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    The Democrats haven't jumped the shark yet.........soon.
     
    Professor Peabody, Oct 3, 2019
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The American people have a right to know if the Democrat front runner for President used his position as VP to enrich his family. $50,000 a MONTH is a big pay off.
     
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  15. MrTLegal

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    Ivanka Trump got trademarks from China right after Trump became President and the Biden children have sold over 100 million in real estate assets. Would you like to investigate those children for their international deals as well?
     
    MrTLegal, Oct 3, 2019
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    1. Biden is not Trump's political opponent, because Biden is NOT THE FRICKING DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE!!!!
    2. Trump was asking for cooperation from Ukraine via the Treaty for the ongoing John Durham investigation.
    3. There is no connection between Trump freezing aid and Trump asking for cooperation.
    4. Zelensky publicly stated that he never felt pressured.
    5. Trump didn't lie about it or obstructed anything.
     
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    MolonLabe2009, Oct 3, 2019
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    The recession started in 2008 when the start market crashed. That's one of the main reasons Obama and the Democrats won on such big margins in 2008.

    Then after getting in office, the American people realized that Obama and the Democrats were worse and the Democrats lost about 1,000 seats at the Federal, State and Local levels in 2010 midterm elections.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 3, 2019
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    And the $1,500,000,000 from China 10 days after his son PERSONALLY introduced him to his Chinese cronies, and of course he never asked his son why or what was the relationship he had with them :police:
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 3, 2019
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    And that was year AFTER the Democrats had taken back the House AND the Senate and majority control of the government policy.
     
    Bluesguy, Oct 3, 2019
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    More than enough evidence. Fast forward to the 1:18 minute mark...

     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 3, 2019
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    Where does he mention or even allude to his son in that video?

    Zero evidence.
     
    MrTLegal, Oct 3, 2019
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    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    So what is Trump's excuse for losing ~375 seats in the 2018 midterm election?
     
    MrTLegal, Oct 3, 2019
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    They did? Then why is Trump President and Hillary not????

    Inquiring minds want to know.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Oct 3, 2019
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    1) Still a **** talking point.
    2, 3, 4, 5) Trump requested assistance from a foreign government against his domestic political opponent while he simultaneously and unilaterally withheld hundreds of millions in military aid and then he tried to hide, lie about, and obstruct the investigation into that complaint.
     
    MrTLegal, Oct 3, 2019
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