Do tax cuts help create Jobs?

The graphs that SmartPolitician is showing do not hold any water in today's economy. We are in global competition now which we controlled pretty close during the JFK days. It is a different world now and all the big corporations that were in this country have all left for cheaper labor to Asian countries. This country will be in deep trouble for several years if our politicians don't change as to how we do trading and out sourcing jobs. It does not matter how much of a tax break these companies get in this country IF they still keep their shops over seas for the cheap labor.
American workers will not go back from making good wages to minimum wages just to satisfy big corporations and the Republicans. There will be a revolution in this country before American standards are cut way down just because of the greed of the Republican Tea Party movement.
The out sourcing of jobs has to stop is one way to create jobs in this country. High tariffs have to be imposed on cheap goods coming from the Asian countries. Get tough with China on their currency letting it float.

That is what will create jobs in this country, not tax breaks for the rich that don't even invest that money in this country.

If Americans have money and good paying jobs, they will go out and spend it on the purchase of American goods. If they don't have jobs because their jobs have been out sourced, they just won't have the money to spend and businesses in this country will shut their doors.

I agree that government jobs rebuilding our infrastructure are only temporary jobs for a few years and is more of an emergency thing to do while a remedy is found on how to stop the bleeding of out sourcing private sector jobs. And that should be the main focus of both the Republicans and the Democrats on how to create jobs in the private sector. I don't believe that the tax breaks is the answer. I believe that other measures have to be taken in the form of finding the reason why these companies have flown the coup and get them back to the United States. Did our politicians get bought out?? Didn't they see this coming twenty years ago when they signed all these agreements to help cut down poverty in these countries that have taken all of our jobs away?

Time to wake up America before all the wealth this country had, would have transferred to all these leaches that will bring this country down without firing a shot.

 

The policies the Democrats have been enacting since 2008, you've been told that repeatedly. The Republicans left us with the highest revenues on record, full employment, falling deficits.

 

Where was it when you voted the Republicans out of office.

Full employment, $161 billion deficit, record revenues.

 

I just skimmed over the first three pages or so...


Nobody asked WHERE did those graphs come from? Where is the link for those graphs or did the poster just make them himself...?

I work for the Gov't and NO tax cuts do not help employment - how could it? Unless you cut taxes on businesses, but that does not help them from opening plants in other countries now does it? BUT taxing them hefty for their businesses in other countries - well - that just might help out our economy!

We tax them for every employee - they don't hire outside of the states and start hiring back in the states... We get hefty checks from them for their employees over seas and start hiring here. Sounds like a win win to me...

Also, I'll get to keep my job along with all the other Federal Employees that need taxes to keep our positions....

 

They come from THE BLS....

Thats almost good enough for the siggy.......

"I work for the Govt and NO tax cuts do not help employment"

....tax increases and unemployment checks create jobs huh?
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The right kind of tax cuts do according to the CBO.

 

Where is the link...

Tax increases DO help employment as I described... What does unemployment checks come into play since we are talking about tax cuts...

I think you should read my WHOLE post...

 

http://www.bls.gov/

Wealth is created in the Private Sector, where real job creation takes place......the Parasite of Government is 100% dependent upon theft from the Private Sector.....feeding the parasite doenst benefit the host organism....
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Logic:

The Bush tax cuts are still in place.
The Stimulus bill contained tax cuts.
The extension of the Bush tax cuts, now known as the odrama tax cuts increased the Bush tax cuts by reducing Payroll taxes too.

Unemployment was 7.8% in Feb 2009 when the Stimulus was passed. Unemployment now stands at 9.1%. That proves to a mathematical certainty that there are now fewer people employed than there were when the Stimulus was passed. It is NOT possible to have a higher unemployment rate IF more people were employed. The fact, according to the BLS is that Aug 2011 had ONE MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND fewer people with jobs than in Feb 2009.

And all official BLS monthly reports use their "seasonally adjusted" model. Attempts to compare seasonally adjusted reports with non-seasonally adjusted reports are fraudulent.

 

The unemployment rate was 8.2% in February 2009, and rising rapidly as hundreds of thousands of jobs were being lost each month.

 

OK, unemployment was 8.2% at the END of Feb 2009. It was 7.8% at the beginning of Feb 2009. The Stimulus was passed Feb, 13 2009. I'll compromise and say the unemployment rate was 8.0% when the Stimulus was passed. It has never approached that figure since it was passed. It has hit the HIGH 8% mark only 2 times in the last year and has gone UP since then.

And there is NO DIRECT TIE between tax cuts and job growth,,,,,,,,,NONE whatsoever.

 

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

Did I call them thieves?

Da Gubmint......this isnt a fact to celebrate unless your a big fan of Karl Marx.

The host organism is the Private sector....its where all wealth generation takes place. The government produces nothing (besides bureaucracy) and turns no profit on any of its many endeavors. The Parasite--Government is 100% (D)ependent upon theft from the private sector...
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I believe you did - could be wrong... I'll check...

How so? I am a fan of the United States! It is what it is.... And that is how we roll... If you don't like my country - MOVE!!!! Because that is how the US has been since the beginning...

See if you didn't say "theft" before - well you did right there! Do you think the military are thieves and yada yada yada as I said previously. Also, why did you emphasize (D) in dependent? Also, why do you not think YOUR GOVERNMENT doesn't produce anything? Are you Canadian?

 

That was my point about unemployment going up. Unemployment was increasing rapidly in early 2009. The stimulus didn't have a significant immediate effect and wasn't expected to.

 

Do I need to drive you down there?

http://www.bls.gov/data/#unemployment

A massive all controlling tax happy statist government is not how we roll........

......its what we threw out in 1776.......and has now returned via the Democrat party.

Your government is (D)ependent upon theft......

The (D)emocrat Party is (D)ependent upon (D)ependents and their (D)ependence....

The Government doesnt produce anything......besides (D)ebt, (D)eficits, and Bureacracy.....

 

You have Clinton to thank for that, but that really issn't the issue. The issue is that you can't look at the effects of tax cuts in terms of minutes or hours. All I know is that we had a nice little surplus goin' on before the Republican Congress and Bush's tax cuts.

 

Do you think the GDP increased primarily because of the tax cuts instead of the War?

Do you think the war had any effect on our GDP?

So my point is that our taxes are at a 60 year low and we still have an unemployment problem.

How can we have an unemployment problem (or increase in employment problem) with taxes at a 60 year low if lowering taxes creates jobs?

That is like saying pouring water from a pitcher will fill it up and offering an empty pitcher as your evidence.

 

Instead of mouthing erroneous liberal propaganda, why not research the actual HISTORY.

Little things like Clinton DID NOT have a surplus. Clinton with his REPUBLICAN controlled CONGRESS had a surplus. Republicans controlled Congress through Clinton's second term and on into the first 6 years of Bush's 2 terms. Democrats took control of Congress for FY 2008. The Republicans last year of control of both Houses of Congress was FY 2007 which ended 09/30/2007. From that time onward, Democrats controlled BOTH Houses of Congress. The economic collapse happened AFTER Democrats took control. Coincidence? Maybe.

But FACTS are:
The last year of Bush and Republican control of Congress, FY 2007, Spending was $2,729 trillion and revenue was $2,568 trillion for a deficit of $161 billion. Unemployment was below 5% and the two wars were on and the Bush tax cuts were in place, yet we had a small deficit and no poor people in the US were starving.

The total deficits rung up by the Republicans controlling Congress were $1,6 trillion in 6 years or an average of $267 billion per year.

Since then, the Democrats controlling both houses of Congress have rung up deficits of $4.5 trillion or an average of $1,125 trillion per year. An average per year, FOUR point TWO ONE TIMES greater than the Republicans did.

All of the above IS accurate and historical fact, not stupid partisan propaganda.

 

here is the entirety of the post you quoted...................

nothing in that post addressed the fact that tax rates are at a 60 year low, and unemployment is still over 9%. Your theory of lower taxes=higher job creation is directly refuted by the fact that tax rates are at a 60 year low and unemployment is over 9%. the only thing that creates jobs is increased demand for production.

 

congress can't pass any legislation the president doesn't sign into law. so, that arguments out.

but, just for fun, which policies are you referring to?

 

If you're asking if Bush was a bad president, the answer is yes! If your asking if b.o. is a worse president, the answer is yes!

 

Yes you are because I know your full of it.... You said you got those links from a site... Go there again... When you SEE THE GRAPH YOU POSTED COPY THE LINK IN YOUR NEXT POST!!!!

Do you understand that? I do not want you to get confused because you did not understand me. Provide a link that DIRECTLY GOES TO THE GRAPH THAT YOU POSTED!!!! Not some Gov't site with over 10,000 options and when searching you can't find it. The EXACT PLACE WHERE YOU SAW THE MAP - POST THAT LINK!!!!

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You can provide us with going to the site you last posted (above) then tell us what to select to view the Graphs you provided - include the page that they are on also. I know you're not a liar, so...

When do you THINK that the US didn't tax it's civilian masses? You just think the General Washington wasn't getting paid? Really...?

Also, when did the Democratic Party "start" taxing it's civilians... I never knew they had the capability to do that without proper representation from the Republican Party (or whomever was there during the time you will let us know "when" the Democrats brought on this coup)

You are exactly RIGHT!!!! It "IS" my Gov't... So... Hmm - here is what I will do for you - PM me your name and address and I will buy you a one way ticket to Canada or England and have you sign a contract under persecution of losing your citizenship for you to leave 30 days after receiving the ticket.

I see no reason for you to stay here if you feel that horribly about MY Gov't... And since it's not yours - you can always renounce your citizenship or leave and I will be more than happy to get either of those two things rolling for you. And I do have lawyers that can make that happen...

Canada will take you with open arms...

 

Economics 101....

 

I said there are many factors involved in Job Creation.....Tax Rates being one of the bigger factors. But Tax Cuts do not stop Acts of Allah, natural disasters, government made disasters, or the most Anti-Business President in History.

Nowhere did I say Tax Rate X = Unemployment Rate Y......

If The Kenyan Tyrant would cut taxes.....Unemployment would fall below 9%.......if he raises taxes.....its going to 10% and beyond.

Its only worked every time its been tried........

Unemployment Rate after The JFK Tax Cuts



Unemployment Rate after The Reagan Tax Cuts



Unemployment Rate after The Bush Tax Cuts


The three largest tax cuts in US History......yielding three of the largest periods of economic, revenue, and job growth in US History.