Do you approve sex before marriage?

My tortured chummy, why do you listen to nutcase teachings which tell you that it's wrong to be human? It's like listening to a marketing campaign by contact lens manufacturers telling you that your brown eyes are ugly.

Sin is baloney. As long as you're not harming others, who gives a rip what you believe and do? We wouldn't care about your beliefs here if you didn't keep screaming at us about how you're right and we're wrong, when in reality it's nearly everyone but you who is a complete human being at some measure of peace with his or her self.

Sex is both procreational and pleasurable, at least as long as some pervert isn't trying to use sex as a tool to control others in some fashion. Traditional Judeo-Christian-Islamic marriage would make women slaves to their husbands, and these Abrahamic religions all seem intent on sucking as much enjoyment out of life as possible simply to suit the thinking of some of the most perverse and depraved minds in society. Stay out of other people's personal lives. If you hate sex, avoid it.. But you don't hate sex, do you? No, you love it. You're as human as any of us, so you think about it plenty. The more you treat it like something evil, though, the more perverse you make yourself. It's like punishing yourself for appreciating beauty, training yourself to avert your eyes from anything pleasing to your sight with the delusion that you'll get to heaven for it.

Ask yourself: does it make a lick of sense for the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE to demand that its creatures cut skin off of their genetalia, not eat certain perfectly edible kinds of foods, that the males subjugate the females, or that they not accept their own natures as, well, natural and acceptable, provided at least that they aren't causing harm to others? You in fact would cause harm to others if you could, for you seek to take away others' freedoms, to make them feel bad about themselves for no good reason, to impose strict & unnecessary rules which don't belong in any enlightened society. No one is beholden to your opinions, and neither are you capable of providing any convincing argument for why they should think as you do.

I strongly urge you to re-evaluate your thinking.

 

2 things.

1. conservatives have sex for pleasure. they hate the idea of marriage and family.
2. you still need to prove the existence of your god if you want to use it as an argument.

 

Heretic, I really don't know what "(*)(*)(*)(*)ation" you are quoting your beliefs from, but the most important thing you must believe in is God, not the Bible, or the church. You must have a relationship with your Lord, as only He can guide you to understanding His word.
Secondly, "Woman was created from the rib of Man, not from his head to be above him, nor from his feet to be walked upon, but by his side to be his equal, by his arm to be protected, and by his heart to be loved."

Also, as I have said before, which you completely ignored, you need to not judge those that do not share your views. That is God's job, not yours. Your job is to explain the teachings of God, and Jesus, to those, who will listen, for they are ready to hear the word of God. God cannot force anyone to love Him, what makes you think you can? That was the purpose of free will. It is His plan, and not your place to challenge the wisdom of the Lord.

 

You need to re think this argument, for it is the other way around here, sparky, or you have not been reading, and comprehending the posts thus far. Conservatives are all about family, and marriage, but only the traditional families, and marriage.
Second, prove God doesn't exist. Oh wait, you can't, so this argument is null and void. That's like believing that because a tree falls in the woods, and no one is around to hear it, that it does not make a sound. Of course it does make a sound, only Liberalized nonsense would question that.

 

Err, no, that's pretty much the last thing poor Heretic needs at this point.

 

Nonsense. Conserevatives are just as morally corupt as liberals. And in case you missed it, I was being sarcastic, and generalizing ALL conservatives, the way he was generalizing ALL liberals.

he is using his god to justify his arguments. I made no assertions as to the existence or non existence of any god. he did. which is why he needs to prove it in order to use it for his arguments.

I can't imagine what you think this has to do with anything I said.

 

Prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist.

 

Of course, I believe in sex before marriage as did my wife. It was sex after marriage where we parted ways.

 

Seems like I've been popular while away

The inquistion was about nothing else but Torquemada's desire to spread his form of morality across the world

And you can claim to be moral. But morality is about much more than who and how many you had sex with.

I do embrace the world, unlike those that would change it to fit their morality

And there's the rub, a monogamous moral relationship. Just what is that? And where? I doubt any moral man would say no to someone like jessica alba or katie holmes, monogamous and moral relationship aside.

Which diseases are moral again, btw?

I wouldn't call alien butt sex a moral thing ( unless you're an alien). Abuse is violence, and immoral, but it's also, for many men, highly sexual. Who is off track now?

And what are you even saying about homophobes? Being bisexual, I have no like for them or any comparisons to them.

First, you called me a slut

Second, I couldn't care less whether you're a libertarian or an Andodeluvian. What type of (*)(*)(*)(*) am I bothering you with and why would you have to pay for it?
Is this a Rush Limbaugh thing?

Lastly, I've been to Detroit a few times. OOh so tough there. It WAS murder city but now it's just empty city. And you are invited to call me a slut to my face, anytime, then we'll see your torque, or lack of, lol.

You make your own arguements, I just reply.

Wow, thanks for giving me your permission to have sex, and it's a good thing to know that you won't be up at night worrying.
Actually been there, done that, (except for the five people, it was three, and the shooting up)....why do you seem so angry, it's just sex after all, right?
Only to the moral people I love. And there's a difference between to revere and to enjoy. Not the same thing.

Hope I answered all of your statements and complaints
We're here to please, always

 

Don't hate your mother for bringing you into a vile world

BLAME YOURSELF FOR YOUR SINFUL LIFE

 

still running scared I see

 

rahl, screaming like a little girl at the top of her lungs: Prove to me that God exists!

Heretic, with composure: Okay, first we'll start with.......

rahl, puts fingers into her ears: EEEEEEE, CAN'T HEAR YOU, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, EEEEEEEE!

Heretic, quits talking and is silent.

rahl: See, you can't prove God exists!!! I didn't hear anything!



Speaking to a fool can be like speaking to the deaf. They only hear what they want to hear.

 

lol, who's screaming?

I simply pointed out that you keep running scared every time I back you into a corner. You have yet to even address my challenge, let alone prove the existence of your god.

are you going to actually do it this time, or are you going to run away and pout?

 

Bishadi already exposed you as a liar, on top of me exposing you as close-minded and deaf. You cannot listen to GOD, because you hate HIM and yourself. You are in league with and an ally of Satan, there's nothing I can or want to do with you. I wash my hands of you, GOD hater.

 

and I've already challenged you to post a lie that I told, and prove it was a lie, but you ran away like a child from that one too.

lol, run away, run away.

 

Don't worry about Heretic. Reading his posts, I've come to the conclusion he is nothing but a bot.

 

First, I loved my mother more than my own life.
Second, I think it's a beautiful world still. It's just filled with vile people (hint).
And last, I don't believe in your sin and I've made it for 31 years.

 

I don't believe you. If that was true, then why would you say such a disgusting thing as you said? You seem full of hatred to me.

Hint, take a look in the mirror?

Then quit whining and don't post about your complaints. My complaints are clear AND JUSTIFIED. Yours are not. I hate SIN. I am against SIN. You know this. It's easy to see. I repeat what I say many times. People will not ever be confused about my message, or what I'm totally about. I'm honest, up front, to the point.

What about you??? You are just another VICTIM OF SIN, who has not learned from YOUR MISTAKES in life, and will probably repeat the same mistake over and over and over again. You're a statistic.

You hate SIN, because you hate particular people in your life. You need to blame somebody for your hatred, maybe your father abandoned you? I don't know. I don't care.

What I do care about is sex before marriage. And it sounds to me like you promote sex before marriage, and SIN, 100%. So I know everything there is to know about you, liberal.

 

Close your ears, close your ears It's what you do best, rahl. You lied to Bishadi, and you lie to yourself. You can't lie to me. You can't lie to somebody who doesn't trust you to begin with. You're just not a trustworthy person, rahl.

Who cares what you believe? I know what you believe. You reject God......you're another liberal statistic. None of the thoughts inside your head are new, original, or inspiring. Nothing you can write down, here, is going to matter. And everything I say, about GOD, you're just going to close your mind instantly. It's not MY JOB IN LIFE to convince you about God's Word. I'm not a FALSE CHRISTIAN who goes around convincing satan-worshipers, like you, to join God's army. I don't do the whole CONVINCING thing. If God wanted you to believe in Him, then it'd happen instantly. YOUR relationship with GOD, or your lack of relationship with HIM, doesn't mean anything to me.

You're close minded, and let's agree to disagree about everything else. I don't work with the close minded. I only speak to the open minded.

 

I've heard of those scenarios / illusions where it's "you and me against the world".

But bashing / blustering one's way through life - alone - not a healthy or sensible option.

When EVERYONE disagrees with you, it's time to look internally and find out whether there's anyone 'awake' in there.

Quite a show... watching someone try to expel their inner demons onto perfect strangers.

When the projections won't stick on others, no matter how hard you try to make others wear your projections - it's time to own the projections, even give them a cuddle...

Ah, life...

 

Great description of Agrona, Gwendoline, nicely said and very accurate about her. It's very disgusting when somebody tries to project their inner demons onto somebody else. When Agrona brought up the disgusting comment about hating mothers, I knew she was referring to herself and her own failed relationships in life. She seems weighed down in failure, after failure, after failure.

I hope that she doesn't believe more SIN is going to help turn her life around. Eventually, she will return to CHRIST. She needs Him.

 

Why should anyone blame one's self for doing nothing wrong in the first place? BLAME YOURSELF FOR YOUR SINFUL LIFE sounds like HATE YOURSELF FOR NOT LIVING UP TO MY STANDARDS.

Silly.

 

It's not very nice of you to accuse Agrona of needing an imaginary friend.

 

What's "silly" is having NO STANDARDS AT ALL IN LIFE. What's SILLY is YOUR RELIGION OF LIBERALISM.

What does having no morals, and being an animal feel like???? Is ignorance bliss???? I would never know............maybe I should remember what it was like when I was 4 years old and completely irresponsible of everything.

 

Christ is REAL NOT IMAGINARY.

Is yesterday real, or did you just imagine it happened?