Do you believe gay and trans people molest children at a higher rate than non gay or trans?

Do you think people who are homosexual just do so for social acceptance?

The behavior of being sexually attracted to the same sex? the behavior of insisting on using your left hand to wright is also a behavior and people do identify as left-handed.

 

Of course it is not the same. One is just the top of the slippery slope the other is all the way at the bottom.

No, the social acceptance part is just the removing of "barricades of conscious". Homosexual "behavior" is just the satisfying of lusts entertained in the mind.

I am left handed so I can relate. I am left eye dominate. Neither of those things "affect family structure" and the way human beings are designed to raise and nurture their young.

As I said, it seems to always be the top of the "slippery slope" in the way we are designed as human beings with a purpose.

 

The connection being a perversion of what promotes a healthy society. One at the top of the slippery slope, the other being at the bottom.

 

After going back and looking at the very foundation of this thread, I find this statement reflects an attitude that prevails in this line of thought.

Puritans have been generalized and given a bad rap in general. We always associate them with the Salem Witch trials which was a tragic encounter and example of the evil residing in human nature. Puritans however knew the importance of "family structure" because the faith they ascribed to demonstrated that. Family and a Faith that glorified our Creator is the very foundation of what made this country great. Family is the structure of the most effective form government protecting individual liberty. It is obvious that collectivists have a collective interest in tearing it down. It really "Sucks" that that is their endeavor!

 

So do brain scans.
They show trans people brain functions as the sex opposite their genitals.

 

That was a terrible analogy.
How is the way one is wired in the brain in any way shape or form similar to running with a bad crowd?

You don't know anything correctly about this topic.

 

The only perversion taking place in this thread is what you consider a healthy society.
At the expense of many types of people.

 

a slippery slope is a logical fallacy so define the slippery slope and show Brian this is the top and not in anything else that anyone else could believe his a perversion.

so you don't think two people are the same sex can possibly love each other and just using each other for sex toys?

I was talking about how I behavior of being left-handed create an identity. You identify with a behavior. The family structure component of this had nothing to do with the point I made.

Slippery slope search typically illogical fallacy so you'll have to prove why this is the top and not something else someone else defines as perverted behavior.

 

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Typically slippery slopes are logical fallacy. So you have to show in order for your slippery slope not to be a fallacy that society accepting two men sleeping with one another will absolutely cause society to think that it's okay for a 45 year old man to rape a baby.

The left does this exact same thing but they just change the terminology because of how deeply associated slippery slope is to logical fallacy they're little smarter than you. Like the school to prison pipeline that's a slippery slope fallacy.

Are you going to make the claim that this will eventually cause that then you have to connect the dots so show the connected dots. Also it's been about 10:00 or so years maybe a little more but homosexuality has been accepted how long does it take before you eventually say okay to child molestation?

 

and opposite their chromosomes I suppose. Sounds like a good science fiction story. So before we marry we should have a spouse do a brain scan?? LOL

 

A child could claim he was wired to belong to a gang. Your analogy gives anyone an excuse for any behavior they desire. I could say "you don't know anything" but I won't.

 

Sure....two people of the same sex can love each other. Love does not usually include sex. It includes a lot more (or did you know that?) I would say to them the sex iss a big thing because that is how they choose to identify.

It has everything to do with family structure and how we are designed. Though I am left handed, I don't claim that as my identity. I don't demand people accept my left handedness, I don't march in parades, and I don't read to little kids while emphasizing I am left handed.

Slippery slopes are very logical. In Georgia, there is Stone Mountain, one of the worlds greatest outcropping of granite. It has no vegetation on the top third as I remember as it is solid granite. The wind has worn it smooth so it resembles a half sphere. They have a tram that goes to the top. Early on they learned they needed to put a fence around the top. People would try to get to an imagined edge and eventually they would get to a point there was no turning back.

The slippery slope is just like Granite Mountain. For an undetermined environmental reason one has a hard time finding the opposite sex attractive. Instead of looking for help in that area, they search in an area that is now accepted by society. For some that search does not fill the void so they progress down Granite Mountain and at the bottom, as to your analogy, we have a 40 year old man raping a baby.

Sex in the confines of marriage between a man and a woman is a beautiful thing. It brings great satisfaction and has the potential for producing children in a nurturing environment. It is likened to a warm fire confined to a fireplace on a cold winters evening. However, when the fire gets in the drapes........watch out!! LOL

 

Perhaps you're preoccupied with the sex part.

Identifying by your behavior? You need to make up your mind. Either your identity as left handed doesn't have anything to do with family structure or it does. You've now contradicted your previous post.

You just did. When you say "I'm left handed" you are identifying yourself that way. [/QUOTE]I don't demand people accept my left handedness, I don't march in parades, and I don't read to little kids while emphasizing I am left handed.[/QUOTE] that just shows you aren't made to feel shame for it.

No I didn't ask for a metaphor. Tell me how we go from accepting two people of the save sex together to men raping babies. Don't give me a metaphor. A logical progression from one to the other.

So gay people should lie to fit in?

 

Why? Unless they told you you would know the difference between an XX person with female genitals and an XY person with CAIS born with female genitals. So what difference would it make?

 

That argument would then logically lead to there being no set behavior for men or women, males or females, renderings any argument of men acting like women moot, since there would be.no one way to act.

 

Well a youngster that joins a gang typically does so for an ersatz family typically because they have an absentee father. I would argue that young men (the predominate type of person that joins a gang) are hardwired to have male role models to seek approval from older men. Joining a gang is an attempt to fulfill this need. I bet there is a heavy overlap between young men who grew up without a father like person in their lives and young men that join gangs.

 

I tried to point out to him behavior such as preferring to write with one's left hand. And he completely ignored the point to rant about family structure.

I think this pool is particularly sallow.

 

I think you touched on my biggest issue with trans activism. i had difficulty putting it into words but i think i have a better understanding of it now. Trans activism isn't simply asking to be left in peace like the "gay rights" movement did. Some people try to claim that two men marrying each other somehow harms their marriage but that is a very weak argument. Trans activism requires others to reconceptualize things. You must reconceptualize what a woman/man is, You must accept some women have penises/men have vaginas. Your idea of sex and gender is wrong. You must use these words to describe me.

Trans activism is often compared to the homosexual movement and it couldn't be more different. The gays and lesbians did not demand people refer to their own partners as spouses or partners. they didn't demand that people reconceptualize sex or gender.

 

I have avoided this thread since its inception because I will openly admit nothing makes me more angry than the 'gay men as pedo groomers' stereotype. It has really destroyed lives, those of kids and older gay men in prior generation. Among the people who bought into that crap were judges in divorce cases. I remember hearing the stories of gay men who's orientation was exploited in courtrooms to deny fathers access to their kids, and kids the hope of learning who their father really was beyond what a bitter ex wife and her relatives said. One of those stories I heard came from a middle aged man with AIDS in the 80's, talking about how it felt not to have had any contact with his kids for about 5 years, or even know where they were anymore. He had a lot he wanted to say and teach. I know what it felt like for me to know that once my then 5th grade oldest son told his classmates he had a gay father, I was unlikely to see any of them come over to my house when he had his twice weekly time at my house and never a sleep-over. Now he had trouble having friends over at his Moms house because her new husband resented my kids, made them feel like impositions and yelled at the all the time. My second son did not tell anyone until much much later.

How many kids saw less of their suspected or out gay uncles or male relatives than other relatives because someone thought too much 'alone' time might be a problem? I had a senior closeted gay relative the family saw constantly, and my and my brothers sometimes got to spend a weekend overnight. One of my older teen aged brothers found some magazines and the man cried and begged him not to say anything. He was worried about my Dad and Mothers reaction ( in fact they had known for years! they weren't stupid)

To see this stereotype being resurrected and weaponized against Trans-Americans infuriates me.

 

I don't demand people accept my left handedness, I don't march in parades, and I don't read to little kids while emphasizing I am left handed.[/QUOTE] that just shows you aren't made to feel shame for it.[/QUOTE] I don't identify as a left handed man just as I don't identify as a person with blue eyes. Those things do not make me who I claim to be. (get your quotes straight.

Not at all. That does not mean they have to broadcast their behavior and demand their lifestyle be accepted as the norm.

You have begun to make my point. Lesbians marry and adopt. That is acceptable to your position. A Father is the natural order of things just as a Mother is in the natural order of things. To deny either creates problems. I do not advocate outlawing your "approved behavior". I just advocate for a change of heart.

 

So you seem to be an advocate for gay behavior and gender dysphoria.

 

So you see intact family structure as a "rant"! Figures. Writing with ones left hand has nothing to do with homosexual behavior. I also do some things right handed. Guess that makes me "bi"! LOL

 

I am a gay man who advocates for myself as a man, a father of three now adult children, and as a citizen. I don't really divide very much human behavior into 'gay' or 'straight' categories. Gender dysphoria is a medical diagnosis. I never advocate for a specific medical diagnosis. That is a clinical responsibility for those with greater education than I have. I advocate for patients who receive medical diagnosis to gain reasonable access to a broad spectrum of treatment options consistent with their clinicians best medical opinions.

 

Then what did you mean when you said "I am left handed?" is I not you

Then why do you think it does if I say I am gay? that is something that does not make me who i claim to be.

I never have i have only ever stated it the way you stated that you were left handed. You don't have to accept it. but it being viewed as normal or less taboo seems to be the issue for you.

It is strictly heterosexuals that deny children a mother and a father. two men can't make a baby, neither can two women. I am betting 99.9% of single mothers are heterosexual.

Change your heart to lie to people and trick them into a relationship where they will be unsatisfied? Do you worship Satan?