Do you believe gay and trans people molest children at a higher rate than non gay or trans?

Uhm link to wait claim? That Charlize is raising her two boys as girls or that the percentage of people in america who identify as trans is 1.8 percent?

 

I don't see what you mean. What is a would be child rapists using the term 'cis'?
And if true, why should 1 person be the judgement to every other trans person in the world.
Has the RCC stopped being a religion because of pedophile priests?

Culturally guide a trans kid? What? Is that like the old conversion therapy for gay people?

I made no statement about naked men or dicks. You did. I said it doesn't happen.
Why not provide evidence of all the claims you make. From a credible source.

 

Any of it.
Make an sensationalist claim requires a credible link.
2 posts about her adoptive kids and no link. I call BS until you prove the nonsense.

 

1) CIS: https://4w.pub/cis-coined-by-pedosexual-researcher/ This link soft pedals what I read of the person. I think he had some serious problems. I do concede when I asked who coined the term CIS, the engine, both Google and Yahoo gave me a ton of links to a guy who says he coined the term cisgender, which isn't what I asked. That guy says he did this much later than the term Cis. He did it instead in 1994. Elon Musk says the term is to be treated as a slur.
2) You know, public school teachers have molested kids. Parents have done so. Priests. They all serve very important functions. You don't do away with these institutions because of some deviants.
3) Does conversion therapy have a history of success? Cuz we were doing something right that made for fewer people identifying as trans or gay only a few years ago than we do now. We need to rediscover what that was.
4) You answered my question which read, "or are you delusional and stating you don't think it happens?" You write, "it doesn't happen." which is horse ****!

 

Here's his wiki page. Nothing about pedophilia. Was he convicted. He is now dead.
So why does his opinion matter? Even if he is the person who coined the term 2nd?

One pedo trans does not make all trans pedo. Anymore than straight sex pedophile makes all straight sex people(hetero) pedophiles.
I fail to see any connection at all.

Yes, all types of people from any walk of life could molest kids. Why pick on just the trans group?

I don't understand your 3) post. Where's the proof there's less gays today than any other point in history?
Few years back, LGBTQ were forced to hide in the closet. To keep from getting ridiculed at best, beaten or worse, killed. by scared hetero's.

You post some random picture? And I'm suppose to believe gays or whatever you are posting about means it proves your claim?

 

But according totjhe abstract the ratio should be 20 to one. There are twice as many homosexual pedophiles as there should be.

 

First, biased source. That being said, the prefixes cis and trans being opposites of each other, it is simple logic that if you are using trans to describe something, then it it logical that the cis of that also exists. The prefixes long predate even the claimed pedosexual researcher.

So this reads as, "simply because some of a group does something wrong, it by no means indicates that all or even most of the group does it." Well Duh! That's what the LBGT community has been saying for decades.

Not a large one, if at all. Most people who have undergone conversion therapy have either reverted back later, or have has more damage done to them that what was "cured". We did not have fewer people identifying as gay or trans a few years or even several decades ago. What we had were more people who were hiding what they were out of fear.

 

That is a delusion, like saying that rapists are not motivated by sexual desire. A rapist desires a woman he realizes he cannot seduce, and he thinks he can get away with raping her. Men rape because during human evolution rape was sometimes an effective reproductive strategy for men.

To say that rape is part of normal male sexuality does not mean that it should be tolerated. It means that the punishment for rape must be very severe.

 

Pedophilia is a sexual attraction to minors. and prepubescent children.

 

I know what I meant. I did not mean that. You are twisting my words.

 

7.2% of the population identify as LGBT as of 2022 and when you exclude the dinosaurs it jumps up over 10%. Not to mention that many of the male pedophiles identify as heterosexual which would skew the self identification even more.

So heterosexual men are slightly to vastly over represented as being child rapists.

Statistics don’t seem to be working in the bigots favor anymore. That said, it’s not a homosexual vs heterosexual issue and anyone focusing more on that vs the children themselves are pieces of garbage.

 

The authors reported 20 to 1.

The rest of your post is incomprehensible blather. Let's see some of that well advertised research you boast about.

If you knew anything about statistics you would use then. You `wouldn't have to smear people as garbage.[/quote][/QUOTE]

 

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I was just trying to do the goose and the gander thing I apologize I didn't mean to twist your words.

It seems like (correct me if I'm wrong) you are claiming a man has to be openly homosexual or bisexual in order to sexually abuse children.

Or are you specifically saying they have to be openly bisexual or homosexual in order to molest children of the same sex?

Or are you saying that people who molest children of the same sex are secretly bisexual or gay?

If that's the case we don't really have a metric on how many people are secretly bisexual and it can be 5% or 75%. If they don't identify that way I don't know how you determine that.

 

Actually most are not. Rape is about power, not sexual desire. It's about control or punishing. Male on male rape in prisons are not about sexually desiring the male victims. It's about exerting power over them by putting the victim through a demeaning ordeal.

Indeed. At that point it no longer becomes a matter of sexual attraction, but a desire to punish and/or control her for snubbing him, or a perceived potential rejection if he thinks she will not respond and doesn't even try.

Rape is very rarely about reproduction among humans.

No argument here, and the same for child sexual assault. But pedophilia, h-e-b-e-philia (not sure why he-be gets censored out in that word), and ephebophilia are not child sexual assault, and not all child sexual assault are done by people with one of those disorders. And my original point was that that for the vast majority of those with pedophilia, there is not a specific attraction to males or females, mostly because they are prepubescent, where as h-e-b-e-philia and ephebophilia, which have attractions that are pubescent and post pubescent, tend to have specific attractions to either male or female.

 

Which is what he said. Pedophilia only covers pre-pubescent minors, not all minors.

 

Forcible rape and statutory rape are motivated by sexual desire. If does not matter if a man who commits statutory rape against boys identifies as a homosexual or a bi sexual or not. He is a homosexual or a bi sexual, openly or secretly.

 

That is a liberal cliche that survives because liberals think sex is good but power is bad. Rapists are not sick. They are evil. They deserve to suffer for their crimes.

 

The term pedophilia is usually used to mean a man having sex with a minor.

 

So what do you think this is more common with homosexuals?

I think it's a lot more common that female children are sexually abused. Typically by men or older boys

 

Really it's specifically dealing with prepubescent children.

If a 15 year old and a 15 year old have sex with each other they both statutory raped each other.

 

So then women can never be pedophiles?

The term pedophilia covers pre-pubescent minors. The term he-bephilia (mods, what is up with that spelling?) covers pubescent minors. The term ephebophilia covers post pubescent minors. The lack of awareness of the general population does not change this. It's similar to how many people mistakenly call polygyny as polygamy. At least in that case, it's not entirely inaccurate as polygyny is a subset of polygamy. But pedophilia does not cover the entire range of minors.

 

Hardly. Especially since liberals are a major proponent for consent, of which rape lacks. I've not disagreed with you on what should happen to those who actually rape, regardless of reason. That does not eliminate the fact that the three philias are disorders, that not all who have one of the disorders have offended, and that not all who have sexually assaulted minors have one of the disorders.

 

Numbering for clarity of response:

1) It is still offensive and should be stopped. More below.
2) True. And not everyone who walks down a dark alley in the big city gets attacked or mugged. Not everyone that leaves a car unlocked in there sees it stolen, etc. But it is good practice to avoid doing so. Protecting kids from being groomed by those with serious psycho-sexual deviances is advisable as well.
3) More below.

Numbering for clarity of response:

1) No wiki page. As I wrote above, regardless, the term is offensive. Straight is a term I'd prefer as it doesn't make one sound like a pedophile.
2) See 2 above.
3) See 2 above.
4) Good luck proving that. Even if true, it is preferable to children being taken to parades where near naked men are simulating anal sex and bdsm in front of them. That you state this isn't happening sadly means you are either lying to me or yourself. ITMT opponents of grooming are telling us that the rise in kids identifying as other than straight has to do with social conditioning and social contagion. Ann Coulter likens the sharp rise in trans men to all of those girls a while back having some condition causing them to shake uncontrollably which turned out to be them just looking for attention and acceptance: there was nothing physically wrong with them. She had a point.

 

It’s telling that very simple words are so incomprehensible to you yet you want to dictate statistics to others.

And it isn’t a smear — it’s a fact