Do you live as if covid is over?

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  1. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

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    I would probably fire him too..........for being irresponsible to himself and others around him.


    As far as the new variant goes....... it SEEMS that the symptoms are milder.............but it is extraordinarily contagious. So minimizing it...... would be reckless..


    Living as if the pandemic is over........... is living in denial. or some alternate reality of wishful thinking.
     
  2. Thedimon

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    Why?
    Why work yourself up over something you can’t control? You can’t force everyone to do as you please, and for each mitigation people do half-arsed measures. Look at the areas where masks are required - are people changing them every couple of hours? Are they properly putting them on or off? No! The absolute majority puts a mask on because they are forced to and they wear the same mask for months. Mask wearing literally turned into a sad circus, as people wear them to get others off their back, not as something that benefits them. You force people to vaccinate. Some do get vaccines but not because they want to - because they have to for work. Do you think they’ll be lining up for a booster if it’s not required? Again, you have a bunch of vaccinated people whose immunity is waning and who have a false sense of security.
    Mitigation measures don’t work. Leave people alone and let them go about their lives. If you are afraid of the virus - mask up, get the shot, and mind your own business.
     
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    Not talking about fear .......but a healthy respect for the virus and what it is doing.

    So........ in your opine........ it is best left to its own devices and do nothing to mitigate ti.?? ...........or at least try...??

    Personally......I hope that kind of attitude is in the minority. If it was not a highly COMMUNICABLE virus.......it would not matter.

    Seems that the core issue is that folks don't want to be told what to do., can't be bothered...... or or have some belief system that resist cooperation .......even if it is a communicable condition that is raging through society. As we are all part of society....... we all will contribute to recovering from this pandemic........or delay the process.........and let new variants emerge/ evolve.

    Reality might be that this pandemic will just become endemic............... and we all will just have to live with it .......... and if that is the case........then we adapt. but we a l have the responsibility ( as members of a common society) to try to mitigate its ill effects ......if w e can. using the knowledge and information that we are gaining.
     
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    The mitigation lasted for almost 2 years now. People are tired of this, they won’t put any additional effort into it. In the first two weeks of “flattening the curve” even I was trying to follow the masking rules. This virus is not going anywhere, not when someone in a country 5,000 miles away can hug their infected relative, jump on a plane and be here before the virus even gets a chance to get established in that host. Vaccinated can spread the virus, so vaccine adds very little, as can be evidenced by simple lookup of today’s covid stats. No one will completely freeze all travel domestic/international for any period of time - we are the culture of consumers, we need Chinese crap even for everyday basics.
    This virus cannot be stopped!
    How many more years do you need us to continue ruining our economy and interfering with childhood development before you accept this reality of life?
     
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    We don't know where we would have been if EVERYONE had followed the advisory from the health care professionals.

    We cannot say with a straight face that a serous effort was made by everyone.......... and that is a factor in how things have turned out........as well.

    As I said.......if this becomes endemic and is verified as such by the health professionals.............we just have to adapt. We will have to find new creative ways of doing things................and that includes How and where we work etc.

    IF as you say......the virus is here to stay.........our lives will not be the way they were before the pandemic. In fact one cannot say that life now is as it
    was Only time will tell........but if things get worse..... we all could be in"survival " mode. It is very uncertain........and concerning.

    If folks think they are "inconvenienced"........... and live as if there is no virus........... it is what it is........ and most of us have to work around them. It is part of the adaptation process.
     
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    There will never be 100% compliance. It just isn't going to happen that way. When this started and we were two weeks in I told my son that this lockdown wasn't going to stand much longer because this is America and we have lives to live. Wasn't long after that we had the beauty shop revolt. The govt should focus on better treatment systems and prepare for the long haul because that's what they have to deal with.
     
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    I totally agree on making better preparations for the long term .........as well as focusing on therapies. I do think that we still need to try and mitigate........ prevent as much as we can.

    Expecting total compliance is unrealistic. It is not just "America".........it is the human factor...Folks have lives to live and economies to sustain in other countries too. This pandemic is world side.. No place is immune from it..making it very challenging.

    Coming from the medical field .....background........ my potion will obviously be health oriented .........for everyone. ;-) To me politics have no place when it comes t o health.........unless it i s to facilitate good care and prevention.
     
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    There was a serious effort at first. Then we got FLOYD-20, and we all watched mass media patronizing street violence and making excuses for protesters not following the lockdown rules.
    No one will even try now. At least - not me.
     
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    Why would you allow social unrest and other factors affect your thinking and decision making. about a HEALTH issue.......?? One's persona health is more important than the chaos s that surrounds us at times. (and we have had plenty of that in recent times ;-)
     
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    In my neck of the woods we've been living life as normal almost from the beginning. I'd venture to say maybe 1 out of 10 people wear masks in the stores I go to and nobody really socially distances anymore. Been that way for well over a year now. The local bars were all full of people going about business as usual even during the height of the pandemic last summer. The bars were technically "closed" but the owners learned a few tricks from Americans during Prohibition so....

    I'm honestly not even sure when the official government COVID mandates ended around here. I know we had some at some point because it was put out by the State but the folks around here just went about their normal lives as usual the whole time and didn't pay any mind to them.
     
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    It just demonstrated a double standard - if you want to go “protest” all night long then that was OK, but otherwise everyone was supposed to stay home to “flatten the curve”.
    These events killed the trust. Trust in importance of this virus. Trust in sincerity of the objective to stop it. You know what they say about trust? It’s hard to earn, but easy to lose.
     
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    interesting. How many.......if any got the virus??? ( ( in your neck of the woods)
     
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    It's kind of difficult to find direct stats for my town in particular because the government categorizes our entire county as one area because we are nothing more than a handful of small towns spreadout that are too small to report on individually I think. But doing some quick math with some Google stats roughly 18% of the population of this area has gotten COVID with slightly over 100 deaths. Based on the total population of this county the 100 deaths puts us slightly below the national average mortality rate.

    Sounds about right to me, I personally know a handful of people who've caught it myself included.
     
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    Politics are hard at work in this mess.
     
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    I hope you are ok now........ Any residual symptoms??
     
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    Thanks I'm fine, no residual symptoms that I know of. I completely lost my sense of taste and smell for about a month but everything has returned to normal now.
     
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    Democrats have already started the uprising, dude (with their illegal and morally abhorrent mandates). Pay attention.
     
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    If you're talking about covid, Trump got there first.

    Also, if you look beyond the US, party lines are irrelevant to covid policy.
     
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    Trump didn't mandate anything. What are you even talking about?

    Incorrect, and irrelevant.
     
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    Of coarse not.......He mishandled the pandemic from day one.......... and he was afraid that doing the right thing for a population's health might make him unpopular.

    He did not have the guts to get h is vaccine in a public way.........so he could set a good example for others. He defied wearing masks.......social distancing..........and other precautions.



    The virus had little to worry about with this man in charge.......
     
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    I was talking about the morally abhorrent part.

    Wrong. Time to update your world map.

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    What did he do wrong?
    What should've he done instead?

    What was "the right thing"? (see above)

    He didn't hide anything. I believe he's recently said that he got a booster shot. He's been quite open about it, even though it's none of anyone's business but his own.

    No he didn't. Those "precautions" are stupid anyway, as they don't work.

    Viruses don't worry.
     
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    I live like Covid never happened.
     
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    I have to wear a mask at work due to working as a contractor on a government jobsite but even that is rare as our office onsite nobody wears masks. I had covid the 1st week of February of 2020 before they had tests. I got tested for anti-bodies once they came out to prove it. It was like a very bad flu that lasted 3 weeks but didn't need any hospitalization. And, I did catch it from sitting behind 12 Chinese tourists on a plane. I even texted my boss right before liftoff that I am gonna catch the virus, then wham 2 days later, I had hard times breathing.
     
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    Not really. Covid is still very real for me. I have to organize events with covid in mind, and I am nearly constantly worried about getting sick. We can't go to a christmas party because my nephew isn't vaccinated (he's very young and nearly always exposed). There are a lot of things I feel more comfortable doing now, but the threat of the pandemic is always looming over me.
     

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