Do you really know what socialism really is?

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  1. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

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    If some aspect of the economy is socialized, then that's what is socialist. It doesn't have to be the entire country.
     
  2. Max Rockatansky

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    Ahhh, common ground. Such people are, indeed, fake Christians.
     
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    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct, but there is a big difference between making a mistake out of a momentary weakness and living a lifestyle that is unChristian while claiming to be a Christian.
     
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    We're already Socialist and Capitalist. A public park or a national forest is Socialist, as is a police or fire department. Owning your own underwear and socks is Capitalist. We will always be somewhere between the two.
     
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  5. not2serious

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    We did not make it or you, but it is our job to protect both and all. Once you become expendable within your life plan, ALL of us become expendable. You support abortion, you eventually support your own murder. If I cannot protect the most helpless of our society, it simply advances to more of us.
     
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    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    you now have your answer in the posting above
     
  7. not2serious

    not2serious Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but you live in a fantasy. Socialism in it's many forms take freedoms away for security, and destroys personal responsibility. Not a smart trade off.
     
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    So you let the government steal for them through the tax system? Wow, you just destroyed your own argument.
     
  9. Max Rockatansky

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    Disagreed. It's just hypocrisy, lip-service to Christianity. How many children have died by being turned away at the border? Do you know? Do you care? I'm guessing you don't know and don't care. Me neither, but at least I'm not a ****ing hypocrite when it comes to abortion.
     
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    You have no knowledge of History. A lot of big governments that had all the advantages, LOST. guerrilla warfare works.
     
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    No hypocrite here. First, for a libertarian you sure are hooked on the socialism viewpoint. I am certainly not religious. I just realize where my freedoms and life come from. You start killing, and soon you have 20 million dead Russians.
     
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    All socialism is bad for the advancement of any society. Mankind's greatest strength is the individual and pushing forward throughout our biological history to where we are today.
     
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    I admire a person who believes it is our responsibility to protect all other humans. So then, I assume you accept society's responsibility to a young mother who cannot feed or clothe her child?
     
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    LOL. You deny it then go into full blast self-defense mode.

    The fact remains anyone who is against abortion but supports kicking kids back into the desert, gang-infested territories or war zones is a hypocrite of the worst order.
     
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    Yes, is the answer to your thread question but it appears you don't understand the concepts. Socialism does not mean "giving up of private ownership of property". The ownership of the MEANS of production is where Capitalism and Socialism differ at their root and obviously there are many variants of practice within both concepts.

    "Under socialism, you and everything your own, you will no longer own, even yourself."

    Wrong. Again, at the root we're talking about ownership of the MEANS of production.

    And note when playing with these concepts the use of terms "private", "personal", "public", and "collective" ownership can get a bit confusing because they can overlap in meaning.

    Maybe it would be easier to stay within one concept and distinguish between for example,
    in Capitalism the difference between public and private ownership of a business.
     
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    SAVE THE BABY/SAVE THE REPUBLIC SO THE CHILD CAN GROW UP IN A FREE COUNTRY

    there, fixed it.
     
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    You are aware, an unborn fetus is not part of society, yes?
    And pro choice doesn't necessarily equate to pro abortion. Just not being a butt head thinking one can dictate and know the reasons every human makes the choice they make.
    But the other poster is right, if mom is 16 and alone, many RWers do not want the mom getting assistance. She needs to get off her lazy ass and get a job.
     
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    I noticed you completely ignored a response to you about freedoms and security.
    But I don't blame you, I shredded your nonsense about how women vote vs men vote. And many of the things you want is to forcefully take away freedoms from groups of people.
     
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    Taxes aren't stealing. Anyone is free to leave for a country where there are no taxes or work in such a fashion that taxes aren't paid.

    Curious, is a tax on gasoline when you fill your car up, stealing to you?
     
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    Prior to nukes or regular bombs. Aircraft.
    Give us some examples.
     
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    Plenty of religious conservatives already don't own themselves according to their beliefs. Socialism is simply the non-religious version.
     
  22. not2serious

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    Well, she learned how to F**K, I guess getting a job would be easier. If I would sit on a jury for the murder by one person of another. If I could find out if the victim was pro abortion, then I would find the defendant innocent. If you want to protect your own life, if you are pro abortion, you have no "right to life" either. YOu are both human beings, and you kill one for convenience, why should we punish someone who kills the same person 18 years after being born, because all they are is an overgrown fetus. If a fetus is not part of society, none of us are and we are all expendable.
     
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    Vietnam, Afghanistan even today, but they defeated the Russians, and now they have defeated us, we just don't have the brains to get out. Tito in Yugoslavia not only to gain power, but 19,000 citizens army defeated 120,000 Germans.

    You don't fight the army, you fight a guerrilla war just like Charlie did in Nam. They would hit and be gone with any pressure, only to pop up 20 miles away. Similar to ali's rope a dope.
     
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  24. dairyair

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    We all would sit on that jury. But a fetus isn't a person and doesn't constitute murder.
    But thanks for admitting you want the 16yr old mother to be forced to have the baby, but then care nothing for the born actual human.
    If you want to force your belief on the world, one doesn't have a right to life. They are a detriment to humanity.
     
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    Vietnam? North a country against the south, also a country.
    Afghanistan, we fought with them, and helped bin laden.
    Don't know about Yugoslavia, but UN was involved?
     

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