Do you support reparations for blacks?

If you prove you are descended from the biblical Israelites then you've got a case but you'll do well in that regard given that Israelis can't even prove their judean descent.

Besides, the Israelis got some reparations, some prime real estate, iforget where but I'm sure if you Google it you'll see what I mean.

 

Sorry, Esau, that doesn't fly. When a person makes sweeping statements, then that person must be able to back them up, period. You didn't, and it's no surprise. No one in the world would seriously believe that any country or state in Europe or the United States condones or practices slavery.

Slavery? C'mon, Esau, are you kidding? Slavery hasn't been practiced anywhere in the U. S. in 158 years!

 

Sorry conservative but that doesn't fly either. You don't get to shake down the non white agenda without doing so with the eurocentric agenda, otherwise that will come off as eurocentric in itself. Nobody mentioned government condoning such modern day practice and if they did then please show proof that African nations condone it before you decide to question my response to his speculative assertion.

 

I just know for a fact (or is it a right-wing myth) the "war on poverty" targeted blacks (although more whites were helped) to put them on a sort of "government plantation"(there’s that slavery imagery) and have their vote permanently (does that work for whites too?)

So anyone who takes advantage of the social safety net is “slothful and lazy” they deserve to go hungry, unhoused and without medical care. Got it. Who said the right lacked empathy, is cruel and anti-Christian…..why I did.

 

Your emotions aside.... look at the projects in Detroit and Chicago. I think that shows who were targeted. Generational welfare is not a "safety net". It is the introduction to a way of life! That is the progressive way to show compassion. Also homes without a father. I think a cleverly devised system by the leftists in America to keep blacks down and dependent is not keeping with the tenants of the teachings of Jesus.

 

Its a leftist conspiracy to control Blacks!

You seem to want to focus on those lazy, slothful darkies and ignoring the greater number of whities who inhabit small towns and rural areas receiving benefits. The white people in trailer parks, you don’t seem to have a problem with, its just the Blacks that you go on about. White people weren’t “targeted” as the conspiracy theory goes. Leftists don’t care about them because they’re too hard to control unlike the easily manipulated Blacks. Is that how it goes?

Oh, and the Jesus stuff I'm no expert on, but I heard "if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?"

 

Most certainly was!....Lbj had some interesting quotes on the matter.

No, it most definitely is not a race issue. Laziness and slothfulness comes in all colors. Whites and other colors fall prey to the government plantation. Without a doubt, however, the black voting block was the initial target.

No, you are no expert about Jesus, however that quote you made from the Bible holds true even when you say it! Look at it closely. You know, some people read the Word of God to prove a point, while others read it for God to show them something, that is because they trust in God.

"if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?"

Anyone.....that is the key word here. That is you Edna and me and every other individual. You are free to give and so am I. We, as individuals, must not close our hearts to that. When we give, we in turn receive a blessing from the Lord. That is what that is all about. When we give as individuals, we make soul contact. We lift eachother up and encourage one another. In fact, encouragement is giving that the poor need more thtn anything especially after their dire needs are taken care of.

When a few elitists in Washington decide to confiscate money from the citizens then redistribute it in a way that wins them votes.....that is not giving and citizens do not receive a blessing for that. This is a Marxist way to look at things.

 

You throw around phrases like "eurocentric propaganda" and "eurocentric agenda", but you don't define what those are in any way that addresses slavery or 'reparations'. Eurocentric? Esau, both France and Britain, which at one time had been practitioners of slavery, got completely rid of slavery even before we did in the United States, and that was 158 years ago!

Today I honestly don't know of one single European nation that is "eurocentric", with the possible exception of some of the old Eastern-Bloc countries of the Soviet Union. Western Europe began throwing itself wide open to migrants from all over the Third-World over ten years ago, including many from Africa. To this day, there are frequent stories about swarms of them trying to enter illegally on overloaded boats. Ask the Italians!

Truly, you'd get a lot more traction with your posts if you'd take the time to tell us what you're talking about when you use terms like "eurocentric" or "eurocentric agenda".

 

So you deny that eurocentric rhetoric exists within white governments?

 

So it is all back to race Esau! Maybe white people can't help it. Maybe they were just born that way to make all other races "victims". We know they can't dance and they don't have rhythm. And according to a lot of African cannibals'.....they all taste like chicken! Maybe you should just be more tolerant of the "evil race" of which you are a part of!

 

LBJ was leftist? You have to be at the end of the far right spectrum to believe that.

If its not a race issue why do keep bringing it up….oh, I know why. Per right conspiracy theory it was to get the easily manipulated Blacks to vote Democrat (and not the whites). Hmm, 55% of Blacks are middle class and above, yet they still vote Democrat 90% of the time and haven’t been on welfare, maybe they just don’t like GOP policies. Maybe they’re not as stupid as you think.

“Anyone” can be read as a group and what is our group? It is our society. Your rationalizations reveal a closed heart....and Christ was a Marxist?

 

America made it about race with their race laws. It's good that you're now asking the real question, why did they do it..

It was greed. Plain and simple.

 

how many long established societies did not have "race laws" (assuming they had more than one race). indeed Japan had a caste system as did India.

 

First off....reread my post. This is why you get things so mixed up. Your idea of giving is a Marxist idea. Christ only spoke of the individual and his/her giving.

Now. why are we talking about race here? Reread the OP. It is about reparations for blacks which is a racist/Marxist idea! It is only about taking from some and giving to others by race. They don't care if you're American Indian, Japanese, Irish, Scandinavian, Chinese, Mexican they are going to take your money and give it to others whose skin happens to be black. Don't know what they are going to do in the case of Obama and others who are half white. It is only about wealth redistribution. Definitely Marxist.
Anyone = Any- ONE This is what unbelievers do when they use scripture to prove a point. They make it say what they want it to instead of, what is God teaching me here? So you take Any-One and try and turn it into the collective. Karl Marx would smile. Jesus always heals , saves and addresses individuals. You need to study a little more.
By the way.....I don't know if LBJ was a leftist, probably not. He was about power and the Democrat Party. JFK was a principled politician in contrast.

 

years ago, the late Great Moderate David Broder, noted that once the USSR fell apart, the hard left in the USA turned their attention from trying to mold the USA into an image of the USSR-to balkanizing the USA into a bunch of warring special interest ethnic groups: affirmative action was one example of this balkanization and this idiotic idea of reparations is yet another one. If blacks think someone owes them (even though the historical fact is that blacks living in the USA have a higher standard of living than their distant relatives in most of Africa enjoy) for slavery, then they should start with those who sold the first generation of blacks into slavery and guess what, sports fans, that was other African blacks

 

Good history lesson Esau. We all have a history. Now let's get on with life.

 

Great Point.

 

Which current law are you referencing?

 

So you continue to refuse to provide any evidence, explanation, or examples of what you're talking about?

I know that with you it's futile, but I'll repeat what I wrote before in this thread, "Truly, you'd get a lot more traction with your posts if you'd take the time to tell us what you're talking about when you use terms like "eurocentric" or "eurocentric agenda".

Why don't you try something simple, like providing any quotes or statements from "white governments" that are "eurocentric". Surely something so elementary as that ought to be easy for you to do!

 

You not being aware of the race laws Americans enacted does not surprise me in the least. History is not taught in your villages, clearly.

 

So macron telling the mali government what is best for the Mali ppl is not eurocentric in your opinion and I'm not surprised you feel that way at all. Denial is a significant characteristic of white American society. The conditioning their is rather extreme it would seem.

 

Is that a question? If so please put a question mark and I'll happily oblige..

 

You clearly didn’t understand the question. I said current. History and I get along pretty well.

Current and historical are not synonyms.

 

You clearly didn't understand my statement when Isaid "America made it about race with their race laws"

Americans and history don't go together, iget it

 

The only thing I could find on the internet that was even remotely connected to what you seemed to be alluding to was this story from last August (2022): https://www.voanews.com/a/mali-lashes-out-at-macron-/6682274.html

If that's what you're upset about, then I suggest you may want to council the government of Mali to tell the French to go ahead and get the hell out of Mali? Oh, wait, the last French contingent of occupation (?) was also in August, 2022: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/16/last-french-troops-leave-mali-ending-nine-year-deployment

OK, now, where's all this "eurocentric" stuff you keep going on about? And, please, what has any of that got to do with 'reparations' for Negroes in the United States? . I'm trying as hard as I can to follow your logic.