Do you support reparations for blacks?

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Do you support reparations for blacks?

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  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    It's your burden of proof. You made an outlandish statement with no primary source material to back it up but you want me to believe your word?

    I've not seen a post of yours yet that leads me to believe you have studied African history enough to formulate your own view. All I'm reading is bubble narrative aka mainstream white eurocentric cliches.

    Ibring interesting and rarely heard narrative on African history, that is not told in western circles. Do better if you are a historian.
     
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  2. conservaliberal

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    Well, you've already admitted earlier in this thread that you are not above making things up, so why should you command respect or credibility as a "historian" when you can't even look up pertinent information concerning Black-on-Black slavery in Africa before the arrival of Europeans?

    Nevertheless, I wish you success in the future with your scholastic endeavors. I didn't major in History (there's no money in it), but I took more than a few history courses at the university level in both required courses and electives. I never took the electives on a pass/fail basis because they were such easy "A's", except for Chinese history! :omfg: That was agony, but it was truly fascinating.
     
  3. Esau

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    It's your burden of proof and you've been unable to back up your statement with any primary sources.
     
  4. conservaliberal

    conservaliberal Well-Known Member

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    As you suggest, education is a very beneficial thing, but it can never overcome sheer GREED. It is greed, and a desire to force others to do someone else's political bidding that drives all these "slavery reparations" schemes.
     
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  5. Matt84

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    That's not even close to the user's point.

    Why use a broadbrush and blame all blacks for what some do?

    Kind of kills that personal responsibility banner you all like to carry. "Hey kid, I know it wasn't you but I'm going to blame you cause you're black too".
     
  6. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you seem confused. I oppose reparations. I believe in individual responsibility. No one alive today has anything to do with the US slave trade. Oh BTW why do lefties blame all gun owners? why do lefties blame all of the top one percent of tax payers?
     
  7. Matt84

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    When the user responded to the other user, he wasn't referring to slavery. That was in addition to a post I had made.

    My post to Fatback was why blame all black parents because of what other black kids do? Then the user @Esau responded by asking Fatback why didn't he follow the personal responsibility mantra that his side likes to push?

    Neither of our posts were talking about slavery. We're pointing out hypocrisy of the right who push personal responsibility but then blame an entire demographic for what some of that demographic do.

    If you still think we're talking about reparations or slavery then you're either confused or intentionally being obtuse.
     
  8. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    you butted in
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  9. conservaliberal

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    If you aren't talking about "reparations or slavery" then why are posting comments in THIS thread? It is understandable that a debate about "reparations" is tied, directly and indirectly, to all those paradigms concerning slavery which existed in a bygone age, but surely to drag it out into residual 'sidebars' about blaming "all black parents because of what of what other black kids do" is a whole parsec off-topic.

    So, if those who believe the United States needs to pay "reparations" to America Negroes because of slavery that ended 158 years ago, they should state their case with some kind of specificity that is germane to the topic!
     
  10. Nonnie

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    Nonnie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which country ended slavery first, and what part did Africa contribute to slavery/stopping slavery?

     
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    I have it on good authority that my ancestors were slaves in King Sonoma 's mines. It's time to pay accumulated damages from then to now.
    Send the money with the gold bars I'm expecting from Nigeria.
     
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    How so? Explain your theory for me...I just don't get it.
     
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  14. Esau

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    There is no good without evil.

    Does it make sense yet?
     
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    Maybe the narrative you tell isn't real then that's why it's called a narrative and not history.
     
  16. Polydectes

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    No your statement was profoundly incompetent.

    It follows that self-centered jealousy communist concept that rich people are all evil and that poor people are good and it's really kind of a puritanical binary broken way of looking at the world.
     
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    Platitudes are your stock in trade. That much I get.
     
  18. Esau

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    Too much tao te ching
     
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  19. conservaliberal

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    By what contortion of logic have you arrived at this specious conclusion?

    Please tell us who "King Sonoma" was.

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    Now, back on topic... perhaps the most accurate thing one can say about the present-day effort by many Blacks and hyperliberal Whites for "reparations" to be paid because of slavery that ended over 158 years ago is --

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    It is King Solomon's little brother?







    Actually the doorbell rang and I had my HVAC guy show up before the proof read window closed.
     
  21. gorfias

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    Any recovery under Tort law is a reparation. It is meant to make the movant whole. To win such a case you need to show proximate cause, not a simple connection chain. The classic illustration is that of a negligent doctor botches a guy's vasectomy. The guy sires a child that grows up and through its negligence, causes a car accident injuring the Plaintiff. While there is a connective link all the way back to the negligent doctor, but it is not proximate.

    No US Citizen alive today was a slave. And we've had intervening factors since. Examples:
    1) The great replacement is replacing all Americans, regardless of race. People claiming these reparations do not even have a relationship to slavery.
    2) 60 years of affirmative action that made 2nd class citizens of non-race capo white people.

    Reparations would be unjust as people that get them were it to ever happen beyond things like affirmative action, which after 60 years is going away, do not deserve them. Those that should not have to pay them will do so.

    And the ironic thing? As someone earlier posted: give a man a fish, etc. That community needs a lot more than a hand out.
     
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