DOE agrees 9-11 was a Nuclear Event

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  1. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure.

    How much are you willing to pay me to do research for you?

    Or..you can look for that yourself.

    I suggest you start here:

    911datasets.org/index.php/Main_Page
     
  2. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    It’s just you said there was no evidence of cutting charges on the steel and audio so I thought you had looked at it and could reference it.
     
  3. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You want me to reference no evidence?

    Okay. This one's free.

    Here you go:
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    Usually when we say "there is no evidence" it doesn't mean "I have zero knowledge of what I am talking about".
     
  5. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You and whom else?

    When someone else asks you to show evidence of zero evidence what sort of black hole do you attempt to climb into?
     
  6. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    "Whom" is a subject there.

    "No evidence of a struggle" implies one looked at the room. "I don't know I haven't looked" is the response you are looking for.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I see your mistake here. You think that since I implied that I would charge you for research that I haven't researched. I find that poor logical arguments are typical of truther posts. Just because I haven't offered it to you free of charge, does not mean I have not done it. I've looked in the room. I've studied it at length. I suggest you look yourself because I could care less to describe the room for you. I'm not your personal research assistant. Chew your own food.

    Explain to me why you feel it is my duty to provide you with a comprehensive report of "photos" and audio" to prove that none contain evidence that supports your claim? I pointed you to a massive database that contains a very comprehensive library of everything you asked for. Have at it and support your own argument.
     
  8. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    You're the one making claims. I just asked you to back them up. Quite reasonable.
     
  9. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We both made claims. Let me remind you of yours.

    I made my own claim, but you asked me to back up your claim.
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    Nonsense. You made a strong claim there were no cutting charges and provided no evidence. You framed it as one or the other. X not Y or Y not X.
     
  11. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I think I did a spectacular job of providing no evidence of cutting charges. No one has done a better job than I did right here in this thread providing zero evidence of cutting charges. Do you dispute with some evidence that I did provide evidence of cutting charges?

    I had to edit this post just to make sure everyone knows just how proud I am of how little evidence of cutter charges I posted right here on this thread. (Zero in fact)
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    You have no evidence of anything.

    You are comitting a negative proof fallacy.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh man, it's the "I know you are but what am I defense." However will I counter?

    How about...why don't you show me some evidence of cutter charges?
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    I don't have any.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well that settles it. I guess it's not bloody likely they were used then.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    How is it the 'cutter charges' weren't set off prematurely by the fires in the towers?
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    C4 doesn't detonate in fire. Charges and caps can be insulated.

    - - - Updated - - -

    On second thought jet fuel can't melt steel.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh man. You just completely crushed the zero arguments that depend on jet fuel melting steel. Great job!
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    C-4 STILL burns when exposed to fire,and the detonators couldn't have been adequately insulated,especially ones dislodged by the impact of the jet..
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    So what gave way?

    - - - Updated - - -

    They could put on the right floors and insulated no problem.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Steel is such a great building material because it is elastic. That means when deflected it does a great job of returning to its original shape when stress is removed.

    Heat lowers steel's elasticity. This reduces steel's ability to return to its original shape under stress. Steel does not have to melt in order for it to no longer be an effective structural member. It just has to be heated. This is why the steel in modern high rises is insulated. It's to protect the structure from weakening due to the heat of a fire, not because anyone is afraid the steel will melt.

    In the towers the insulation was ineffective. This was due to two reasons, first, there wasn't enough of it, and second much of it was removed by the impact of the aircraft.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    It collapsed at the floors that were impacted,try again
     
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    but we know something created the 2500++ degree molten amalgamate.
     
  24. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    ah yes!

    and you always can tell when heat from an office fire causes a steel column to lose its strength!

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    Only problem is that I cant find anything that looks like that in the rubble pile.


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    I am sure you can provide plenty columns that have failed due to heat for us to look at right?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    "detonators couldn't have been adequately insulated"
    get serious already thats hilariousl

    "especially ones dislodged by the impact of the jet.."

    not if they strategically placed them.
     

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