Does Man Exist?

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  1. impermanence

    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. These events are all taking place at the same time [just different locations]. For example, take the BIG bang. According to our science, there is a place out on the edge of the Universe [13B light years away] where if you were observing, you would see this event. This would be same time relative to that specific coordinate. Again, time is relative to each coordinate point. It is a different time relative to here but that doesn't matter because time is non-transferable. Although it takes light 7 minutes to get from the Sun to Earth, it has no meaning as the only meaning time holds is point specific. Time is occurring at the same time because each coordinate point has its own universal time. IOW, each coordinate point in the Universe is its own Universe [completely separate from any other point].

    Here's something to think about. We often think of time as this motion picture, frame after frame and frame. That's not how it works. How about if each moment was complete in itself, related to the one before and after [through cause and effect], but discrete just the same. The movie thing is what our brain does in an attempt to make sense for our meager intellect.
     
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    The question itself is self-contradictory. You are asking humans if humans exist. Womp womp.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    I am scientifically trained and have used this knowledge through my career. I have also been a serious Zen student for over three decades and this has had a MUCH greater impact on my approach to all I do.

    Don't get me wrong as I appreciate the importance of the intellectual "stuff" [and much more so since I have been able to realize some things about how the intellect functions]. More important is the non-intellectual. This is what Zen is all about. The words simply point to the practice.

    The closest we can get to real is that which takes place before our intellect turns perceived reality into our personal reality. This is why first impressions are so accurate. Although we can never access actual reality [for many of the reasons discussed], we do the best we can by attempting to eliminate our personal reality as much as is possible. What we are left with is things as they are [not as we think they should be].

    What is knowable [intellectual] is always changing with the inputs that create everything. What is not knowable [non-intellectual] is permanent. There is another approach to life that people have known about for thousands of years. After all, there is nothing new under the sun.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Existence takes up a lot of shelf space in the 100 section of the library.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Spoken like a true misogynist. I will ignore your little temper tantrum. Be a good boy, get out of your cot and pick up all your toys. You really do tend to insult members in a very emotional angry way. Pot meet kettle.

    Dunning meet Kruger.

    I actually don’t find too many to be brutal at all on these forums, most have something to say. All the different personalities are interesting. You get pounced on because you are dreadfully wrong with your line of thinking on this thread and I am not going to waste my time by repeating what others have said.

    Again, thank you for the lovely compliment. As I have said, doing anything ‘like a girl’ is awesome, amazing, incredible and strong. Lecturing like a grumpy old man, not so much.
     
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    I don't recognise anything new or unusually creative here.
    You'll have to do better.
    The non intellectual is merely a function of the brains we as humans have.
    I was speaking of different universal dimensions, not just this one.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Nice chatting with you.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    This is why I try to stay away from women on these sites. Nothing but criticism and nastiness. Please do not participate in my threads. Enough.
     
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    This is why I should know better than to engage with admitted sexists on these sites. Nothing but sexism and nastiness. Please don't start threads if you can't outgrow that kind of shortcoming. Enough.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Are there any adults who still would like to chat?
     
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    Well, if the OP is not willing to talk to women, then clearly one side of the discussion is lacking in adults who are capable of rational conversation.
     
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    Gender discrimination is very real today - not just decades ago.

    You may want to ignore it, but trying to write it off as "victim narratives" does not make it less real.
    There are numerous posts on this thread that point out YOUR mistaken views of physics. So, are you suggesting that you fail the "you have to know what you're talking about" bucket?
    That idea is a direct refutation of your earlier invitation of having a broader view as represented by those you are GUESSING to be women.

    Plus again, you haven't brought the serious BS when it comes to physics, and you aren't taking advantage of serious thinkers by citing them.
     
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    Tax exempt status has NOTHING to do with whether the religious group is pitching truth or total BS. It's a decision made on very different grounds.

    Having your own private definitions for words like "real" doesn't help you support any idea you have presented here.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Let me be honest with some of you people here. I could care less what any of you say or how you think UNLESS you happen to say something interesting. There has only been one person conversing with me in this thread who has had anything original to say. Everybody else is simply bitching and complaining. Does anybody else have anything original to say?

    I do this for entertainment because I am mostly retired and have some time to kill. I don't know any of you and never will. This is purely an intellectual exercise. That's all. If you don't agree with me, tell me why and what your thoughts are. I cannot understand why you people seem to get upset or take these things personally. It's just talking about ideas. That's all. How can there be anything personal in it. My comment about women is pretty universal [ask most men].

    I could sit here and write endlessly about all kinds of things [including physics] but it wouldn't matter. You don't get what I am saying and that's fine. Some people do and some people don't. No need for the complaining and accusations. If you don't like what I am saying, you can just skip my threads. Easy solution.
     
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    99.9% of everything everywhere [including these forums] are simply echo chambers. I am not like that. Some people actually find that to be interesting although it seems most just seek affirmation. Whatever. If you just want to agree with somebody, read your own posts exclusively.
     
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    Where exactly do you find gender discrimination? Could it be in college where the majority of undergrads are women? Or is it in health professional schools which are approaching 70% women?
     
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    You presented an interpretation of principles of physics that is clearly NOT what is accepted the world over by physicists.

    Are you insisting that people should ignore that gross misrepresentation?
     
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    If you really believe that physics is wrong (as you have claimed), then you should show evidence.

    It's the total lack of evidence, the sweeping denial of fundamentals, that turns this into an echo chamber.
     
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    It's in the post of yours - the post to which I responded.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Is there some kind of law against thinking outside the box? Isn't it better to ignore it than to get all upset about it?
     
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    How am I discriminating against women?
     
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    It's a little more than that when you state that everything we know about this universe is crap, and then give examples, such as your ideas about time and light that you can't support.
     
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    In the post to which I responded, you used femininity as a pejorative and stated that women are inferior.

    On that basis, you implied that women or those LIKE women should stay away, at least until they understand the topic!

    I'd point out that you pulled that crap after demonstrating a lack of understanding of the physics of this universe.
     
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    Look, my friend, it's time to let this go.
     
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    Time does exist, as your own argument, here admits. If we accept your assertion, that each point is its own universe, then all things are not occurring simultaneously, in any given one of those universes: time functions in each one, even if you want to quibble over the differences between them.
     

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