Donald Trump Says Barack Obama Was Born in U.S. After Years of Sowing Doubt

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    Donald Trump Says Barack Obama Was Born in U.S. After Years of Sowing Doubt

    Wall Street Journal (online edition)
    By MICHAEL C. BENDER and REID J. EPSTEIN
    Updated Sept. 16, 2016 12:01 p.m. ET
    WASHINGTON—Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump on Friday for the first time asserted that President Barack Obama was born in the U.S.

    “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period.”
     
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    It's no shocker he would say this while trying to win a national election. What's funny is all the media, even FOX news, taking the ball and running with this story to give Hillary a shot.

    Whether Trump really believes this is doubtful. I think in a few decades, or possibly less, this entire corrupt, criminal Administration, along with the Bush family, and the Clintons (if they are still with us) will be facing trials, not unlike the Nuremberg trials.
     
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    Wow, what a monumental development! CNN has been pumping this birther BS the last two whole days. I wonder what new garbage they have up their sleeves to denigrate Trump next.
     
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    That's true of LOTS of things Trump claims he believes, isn't it?

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    When TRUMP was pumping Birtherism....why didn't you call it "BS"????

    BTW, if he'll abandon Birtherism.....why not "the Wall"?
    :)
     
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    I admit that there's a chance that Trump is playing all of us, that he's really a progressive, as some of his past views reflect this. But even if the worst case scenario is true, he's a progressive who clearly believes in national security. And even so, he's still light years better than any democrat offering.
     
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    "Trump may be a liar...but I believe what he tells me about believing in national security!"

    You don't really pay attention to what you wrote, did you?
     
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    As nobody is unable to change their mind, I believe that Trump has. Through obama's Presidency, he has witnessed the country deteriorate, and our position as super power wane. Perhaps, he's been reading Breitbart, but I believe that he's been radicalized. We shall see I suppose.

    Maybe I shouldn't have said radicalized, actually he's a true Republican. Every President in the past few decades should've given an immigration speech similar to his, actually Billy Clinton gave a SOTU almost just like it! It's just that his views seem radical, because mainstream Republicans try really hard to align themselves slightly to the right of Trotsky; they hate their base with a passion. If you aren't for completely open borders and amnesty, you're a racist!

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    As nobody is unable to change their mind, I believe that Trump has. Through obama's Presidency, he has witnessed the country deteriorate, and our position as super power wane. Perhaps, he's been reading Breitbart, but I believe that he's been radicalized. We shall see I suppose.

    Maybe I shouldn't have said radicalized, actually he's a true Republican. Every President in the past few decades should've given an immigration speech similar to his, actually Billy Clinton gave a SOTU almost just like it! It's just that his views seem radical, because mainstream Republicans try really hard to align themselves slightly to the right of Trotsky; they hate their base with a passion. If you aren't for completely open borders and amnesty, you're a racist!
     
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    So he COULD change his mind about all the detailed, specific things he's promised you on national security????


    BTW...what are they? Besides "I'll get tough with ____" and "Obama and Hillary were weak, I'll be tough"?
     
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    You obviously haven't been paying any attention to any of the things he has said. I'll sum it up for you, "I don't give a s*** about your rights, if you break our laws, your @ss is getting physically removed!"
     
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    When I first noticed Trump he was spouting birtherism and I judged him to be either an enterprising self promoter or a shill for Hillary. Now it appears he has a chance to win and I can't stop laughing.
     
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    I'm paying attention to what YOU are saying....

    YOU SAID "Whether Trump really believes this is doubtful"

    and YOU SAID "I admit that there's a chance that Trump is playing all of us, that he's really a progressive, as some of his past views reflect this."


    So why wouldn't he "sell you out" on national security, the ONLY issue you said you believed him on?

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    So you only started supporting Trump...when it looked like he could win?

    So if it looks like he'll lose?....you'll abandon him?
     
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    Did I say I support Trump? You keep trying to put words in my mouth. I support whoever is not Hillary regardless of party, race, economic class, or legal status.
     
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    Like I said on another thread, Trump's not making birther ism a campaign issue, he's making national security one. If he sold us all out on this, we'd hold his feet to the fire and he wouldn't be re-elected. Comprende?

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    Where are you puling this stuff from? Nobody's abandoning Trump, and to ensure this, the possibility of a Hillary Presidency is the stuff of nightmares!
     
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    He probably did this because he's only 1% under Hillary and is reaching for moderates. We'll see how this plays out. It's not like someone who was already a fan of Trump is going to say "Ok. Now that he dropped the birther thing, I'm voting for Hillary instead!".

    Lol get real.
     
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    Yea, the Hillary supporters have made their minds up ever since she became the nominee. It's Independents that win elections, but in Hillary's case, she isn't even trying to appeal to Independents, because she has the dead vote all locked up!
     
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    Hah, that she does.
     
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    So believe he's lying his way to the WH
     
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    ALSO

    Donald Trump Retreats from Obama ‘Birther’ Theory


    Donald J. Trump publicly retreated from his “birther” campaign on Friday, acknowledging that President Obama was born in the United States and saying that he wanted to move on from the conspiracy theory that he has been clinging to for years.

    Marking a sharp reversal from his previous position, Mr. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, said at a news conference that he was now satisfied that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii.

    “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period,” Mr. Trump said. “Now, we all want to get back to making America strong and great again.”

    Mr. Trump’s remark came after Mr. Obama, in a brief exchange on Friday with reporters at the White House, again expressed scorn for the entire subject. “I was pretty confident about where I was born,” he said. “I think most people were as well. My hope would be that the presidential election reflects more serious issues than that.”

    Mr. Trump’s shift comes as he is trying to make amends with black voters who have been offended by the way he has challenged the legitimacy of the country’s first black president.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/17/u...lumn-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
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    He's a damn racist and misogynist. Blacks, browns........... Muslims and women know this and will not vote for him............
    But there are some people in all those groups who are unintelligent and ill-informed thinking he will actually help them and will vote for him....... They also the hurt folks and more all produces..........10's of thousands of jobs offshores........

    And if his "economic" plan is enacted..........it is predicted 3,000 more jobs will be lost...........mostly in the RED states ...........and lessen regulations to allow more American jobs off-shore ............

    So I figure if yall elect this lying clown..........you'll get what yall deserve......
     
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    What do you mean? Trump "denigrated" himself by initiating the birther movement against Obama. He has no one else to blame but himself.
     
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    1. So you're GAMBLING that Trump isn't going to sell YOU out...like he sold out the Birthers today?

    2. Sure you'd re-elect him. You going to let a person you'll automatically determine as a "soft on national security" Democrat win in 2020? You'd say the same thing as now "Trump may have lied to me in 2016....but he's worth the gamble in 2020 over ______, who I KNOW will be soft on national security!"

    You constantly lie to yourself...out of partisanship. Why would 2020 be different?
     
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    Are you talking about Hillary, because that is exactly what she's doing. We know that for a damn fact, as in 2006 she was for a border fence to keep illegals out, but now it's racist. We only have opinions on Trump's perception.
     
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    You seem to know an awful lot about what I would do. I mean, what don't you get about Trump bringing up the birther issue as a civilian, and Trump making national security a staple in his campaign?
     
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    No, now we have FACTS. He sold out the Birthers today....why wouldn't he sell YOU out?

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    Basing it on what you're saying NOW.

    Why would you allow a Democrat to win in 2020....when you're already on record saying that you'd gamble on Trump LYING TO YOU in 2016?

    If he did win and broke his "national security" "promises"....you'd make up an excuse in 2020 for continuing to support him, since you wouldn't want the Democrat to win....would you?
     
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    It's yesterday's news just sayin'. Why bring it up now unless it's to cover for Hillary's medical condition?
     

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