Donald Trump Suffers Double Polling Blow

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The bigger issue is voter apathy

    Many voters don’t feel like Biden has lived up to his promises and they will hold him accountable. Him Backing Israel also hurt him with many progressives.

    If voters come out in 2024 we will likely see Biden win. If they don’t trump will — both sides know this which is why one side wants to register everyone they can while the other side wants to disenfranchise anyone they don’t like.
     
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    Well, since it really only comes down to 6 or 7 states (I personally think Michigan is lean strongly D going forward), we only have to get people motivated in a handful of places...

    Would it be illegal if a sitting president ordered Seal Teams 1-200 to not allow Republicans in polling places in those states on election day?? Would that "cross a line"?? Hmmmm....
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Under trump and the Republican parties narrative, Biden would be able to have them “guard” polling stations to not let republicans vote.

    Since the office of the president is now a supreme ruler
     
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    I am not betting on anything. But I know many will. Enough? Maybe. Enough if Biden drops out and it's Trump vs generic Democrat, far more likely Trump loses.
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I haven’t completely lost faith in the American electorate. Even though 2016 did shake it considerably…


    Pretty much all of trumps policies failed, he had a few successful ones largely on trying to keep asylum seekers in Mexico. He pushed massive unfunded tax cuts, pushed the FED to have negative interest rates and QE to prop up his failed GDP growth. Not to mention the failed trade wars that led to us having to provide subsidies to farmers as well as the constant lies from everything to the mundane to the dangers of a lethal pathogen.

    Not to mention just being a shitty person and representative of the nation.

    If people vote for that.. I don’t really know what to say
     
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    Not to mention he actually comes off OLDER than Biden.... and that's no small feat....
     
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    Yeah, but he’s right about the rules.

    I don’t tend to put too much faith in any of the polls this early in any Presidential campaign. I’ve lived through sixteen of them.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is correct about the rules
    That I comply with

    I am not a maga so I don’t get lax treatment

    Polls this early are fickle but they are fun to look at to watch current sentiment as well as trends.
     
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    With inflation finally easing and the economy still roaring and the Fed looking at cutting rates this year, Biden's approval should only go up from here. But we'll see what surprises America's enemies have in store. Could be that Russia and friends will find ways to cause us some more economic pain, and of course the bot accounts will all blame Joe for that if it happens.
     
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    Called it.

    Like I said, polls are unreliable. There are a near infinite amount of variables that ARENT being considered in them.

    They may not be completely useless, but certainly are nearly as useful as people want to believe. They are more of a gloating tool than a tool to actually determine the truth of the world around us. To many ways in which they ignore context or can be manipulated.
     
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    Lax treatment goes directly to the left lol.

    Polls, at any point are fickle.
     
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    Polls are kind of a wild card right now, most of them exclude Kennedy, some of them show his presence helping Trump. some of them show him helping Biden. It’s still the silly season. and we don’t know what events will unfold to influence the outcome of the election
     
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    As it was in 2020, it's going to be the Anti-Trump vote that decides this election. Biden didn't win because people really love him, Biden won
    because a great number of people really dislike Trump. The election will be decided by how many anti-Trump voters are motivated to
    go to the polls. Right now, I would give Trump an advantage, because those voters aren't motivated - but every new anti-abortion law that
    the Republicans pass will push more and more anti-Trump voters to the polls.
     
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    Brandons policies have failed. He has been a mostly lame duck president, accomplishing very little. What he has tried to do has been mostly unsuccessful. Luckily, our society is built stronger than any one president and is rebounding regardless. That being said, most of our society are sheep. They listen to whatever the MSM tells them. And the MSM has little to critic about left wingers, and overly critic the right.

    This results in a very left wing culture that polls repeatedly fail to consider. Our electorate are NPC's. As the time to vote comes closer, so will the MSM and leftwing propaganda. As that increases you will see a stronger and stronger left wing advantage.

    Dems dont win on the issues. They cant win on policy, they cant win debates on prodecuderes, they can't point to any of their locations and say "see how well we are doing?!". They will push the "but we aren't Trump" card. Which despite Trump having proven to be far more effective of a leader than anything they have on their side, is a very effective card.
     
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    WAY OLDER

    SNIP
    “By the way, they never report the crowd on Jan. 6. You know Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley, Nikki Haley. You know they – do you know they destroyed all of the information, all of the evidence, everything, deleted and destroyed all of it. All of it,” Trump claimed.

    “Because of lots of things like Nikki Haley is in charge of security — we offered her 10,000 people, soldiers, National Guards, whatever they want. They turned it down. They don’t want to talk about that. These are very dishonest people.”
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/riot-roh-roh-trump-drags-050801244.html

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    You think that's bad? Check this out:

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, still within the margin of error. I don’t know what point you think you are making. The difference is trump isn’t the nominee yet — as soon as he is, we will start to see actual polling data that reflects the two candidates.

    How is a polling aggregate “bad”?
     
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    What, specifically, about Biden is so bad that people would vote for a candidate with 91 indictments and offers nothing except victim whining?
     
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    Old
    Terrible public speaker
    Fell off dismounting his racing bike a few times
    And worst of all to MAGA, competent at governing
     
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    Lmao, competent at governing.

    Well atleast the left is honest. Brandon is the height of their governing power and capability.
     
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    Biden's support has been falling quickly amongst key voter groups for him, especially due to the Israel/Palestine issue. He's no different than Trump would be on this probably (unconditional support for Israel), and it is leading to may who would have supported him staying home, and others voting against him out of spite or hoping the Democrats will do better if given such a shock. He also had a major issue with democracy as he shuts out contenders from debate etc and the party leaders shut them out from a primary. Then there is the fact that he's old and appears to be senile.

    He is the worst choice the Democrats could run, but his ego and the party insiders are more dedicated to holding their power over the party than they care about winning the election.
     
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    Botht the left and the right have much more competent people they could be running. The system is rigged against competency in numerous ways.
     

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