Donald Trump to Newsmax: Remember, Nancy Pelosi Was in Charge of Security on Jan. 6

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Security for the Capitol is the responsibility of Overseer Pelosi and ilk and the CP .... not Trump or his supporters.
     
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    Very good. You are correct.

    It also doesn't change the culpability, not even on the quantum scale, of those who stormed the building and the horse's ass that egged them on to do it.

    Here's a revolutionary thought(please sit down before reading it if you are not already). We can hold those who failed on the security responsible for that and those who stormed the building and made up the nonsense that instigated it responsible for their part.....at the same time. Neither one cancels out the other.
     
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    Interesting! So BLM and others, when they were rioting and burning and looting, were not responsible for what happened in Kenosha, Wis.
    It was the Kenosha police for not having enough officers to stop them.
    This is the definition of pretzel logic................
     
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    Congressional committees are not in the direct chain of command and those committees are not the indirect chain of command either. Committees do have the power to approve budgets and priorities for the department, but not the day to day operations of said department. Thus, it was all on the Chief of the Capitol Police and the Excecutive Branch that bores the primary responsibility.
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    So how much more would it cost to have guards standing at the Capitol before Jan 6….. as to how much it cost to have them standing at the Capitol after Jan 6? When was the Capitol more secure.
     
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    Yes, I think when you call someone a "leftist", I think you do consider it an insult.
    Of course I don't know what Trump is thinking at any given moment. Here's what I assume:
    If he actually requested more security, and that's a questionable if, it wasn't because he was worried about antifa or blm or any other counter protest group.
    I assume this because he almost never requests additional security for his rallies. Worried about counter protests my butt!
    Trump knew there were people online talking about violence and illegal means to "stop the steal" But did he convey that message? No.
    He says he asked someone to look into it, according to Meadows (who I'm certain wouldn't lie for Trump), and he said something to someone, blah, blah, blah.
    But not one request via email, letter, note, post-it, anything? And did he warn them about how much violence was being talked about? He knew, because the FBI knew and was warning him.
    If there were safety concerns about Jan 6th that authorities of any capacity ignored, then it should be addressed.
    But that doesn't absolve Trump from responsibility.
    He didn't immediately try to stop it because HE LOVED IT! He loved that people would literally fight for his fake cause, and reveled in it for more thank 90 minutes as those who knew him begged him to do something.
    Trump is a anti-American scumbag. The only thing he loves about America is fame and fortune.
    Why people who claim to love this country would support someone who steals from them and lies to them is beyond me.
     
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    They were standing at the front of the capitol. They were overwhelmed, with some being attacked by those same MAGA supporters when the vote started to not go their way, a little after 2pm. This group was generally seperate from the Rally near the WH until later that day, like around 5pm. The rioters began at 2pm and things did not settle down till about 5pm. Some of the heaviest and most confrontational issues was between 2:30pm and 4pm including when Ashli Babbit was shot and killed.
     
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    Who did HIS supporters need protection from which is why they were asking the local authorities so request additional security.
    How exactly was he supposed to "immediately try to stop"? I have already cited he told the rioters to be peaceful and obey the police 30 minutes after the Capital was breeched and again 30 minutes later.
     

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