Donald Trump, who never served in the military, goes after Senate veterans

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  1. Penrod

    Penrod Well-Known Member

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    Especially one who lies about his service. I served in the Marines during Nam and when asked when I served I say 68-72. People automatically think I served in Nam. I was in the air ring and we flew our missions over Nam out of Iwakuni Japan having moved there from Da Nang the month before I arrived there. I never set foot in the place and never tell anyone I did. I make a point of telling them I did not. Saying you served in battle when you did not is one of the most dishonorable things you can do
     
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    I don't feel disparaged. Did the Senator misrepresent his service or not?
     
  3. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    What we need to do is use his direct quotes about having served in Vietnam not what you posted that says a newspaper describes him as a Vietnam Veteran.

    Here is a direct quote see the red that is the lie..
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    He disparaged McCain. Trump accused McCain of losing so much because he has not one therefore doesn't know how to win. Trump was PO'd because McCain did not describe the Yemen raid as a great success like Trump lied and said it was. The raid was a failure but as McCain pointed out it was not the fault of those who went on the ground and conducted the raid. Things went wrong as things sometimes do. Trump wants to hear nothing but praise for what he does or authorizes. McCain told the truth and Trump nuclear.

    Trump was itching about Blommers telling the truth about what Gorsuch said and since Trump was ticked about that Trump through in what Bloomers said during a campaign. Wow imagine that someone lied during a political campaign.
     
  5. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is ample evidence that he misrepresented his service multiple times, and he certainly did nothing to correct press reports about his non-existent service in Viet Nam.

    Let's not defend this guy, Partizan. He is that "stolen valor" type guy who deserves whatever humiliation and scorn he gets.
     
  6. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Bloomers sin is that he said he served in Vietnam. He never said that he served in combat. I posted in another posted the quote where Bloomers said he served in Vietnam please go read it.

    If anyone has a direct quote from a reputable news source of Bloomers saying that he served in combat please post it along with the link just as I posted my link and quote. People can claim that Bloomers said it as some did that here but show the proof.

    I provided proof I did not just make a claim.
     
  7. Penrod

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    But did he serve in Nam? My point was when you say you served in Nam people take it for granted you mean you fought there. Not that you were some clerk in the rear. I say I served during Nam not in it

    Looks like he is a total liar

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I understand what you are saying about serving during but not in Vietnam. I did serve in Vietnam and I was given a Purple Heart but I am cautious about saying that I served "in combat". I got hit with a 80 mm mortar round , the first one in when Viet Cong walked mortars at us. I and a group of us had just been asked to leave the NCO club because it was closing time. I was walking back o my hootch , I did not hear the tubes go off so bam one round killed the guy 4 feet to my left , racked me up a bit, and scratched a friend a mine. So did I serve in combat? It's questionable isn't it? I did not go out to the bush days at a time. I did not fly bombing or strafing missions.

    But I did serve in Vietnam. I qualified for a Purple Heart just as my friend di for his scratch. Just as the guy to my left did who paid the ultimate price. So who saw combat? The guy who was killed? Me who almost lost a leg but did not ? The guy who was scratched?

    Technically and legally all three of us did. Morally the guy who gave his life did, and the two of us who live where there to witness it.

    I do not say that I served in combat!!! I was there when combat happened!
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    He did lie. The point is that Trump used that Bloomer lie to attack Bloomers on the Supreme court pick. Now Trump lied about where Obama was born. Trump lied about the fact that Muslims were dancing and cheering on the night of 9 11 in New Jersey. So should if I did not like who he nominates for the SUPREMES should I use the fact that Trump lied about some unrelated events ?

    That is what Trump did to Bloomers. Trump threw in the Bloomer quote on serving in Vietnam as reason for Bloomers not to question his pick.

    So if I was a Senator should I use the fact that Trump lied about where Obama was born to oppose Trump's SUPREME Court pick?
     
  10. Penrod

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    But you did serve in Nam he did not. I could claim I did but I did not and make no pretense of it. By the way welcome home

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    No Trump questioned where he was born, He did not lie and Obama was not an NBC to boot
     
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    That's your defense?:roflol:
     
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    I'm sorry are you accusing me of lying about my service?
     
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    I didn't say McCain said that. What is happening though is liberals who typically despise veterans are throwing fits every time trump says something negative about McCain and saying "oh look at trump insulting this veteran, he hates them." It's moronic and pathetic and coming from the left pretty insulting.

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    My dad was denied enlistment because he had flat feet. Not sure what year he tried to enlist though.
     
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    Yeah when Dems criticize the military, they hate them. When your side does, it is freedom of speech. Get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of here with that BS.
     
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    Yes he is. His two BC's he released proved that. Trump of course can refuse to release his taxes like every other President has and people like you cheer him. Pathetic.
     
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    Sorry, but you are wrong about Blumenthal. He got 5 deferments and then joined the Marine reserve. During the war, he traveled as far west as Washington, where he helped the Toys for Tots program, but NEVER went to Vietnam . Yet he LIED for years about his combat experience to veterans' groups. Trump never lied about his 5 deferments.

    As for McCain, no one questions his service and POW status, but according to what he said, his own mission would have been considered a failure because people died and he was captured. What McCain said was wrong that the Yemen mission was a failure because an American died, tragic as it was. They retrieved an enormous amount of information on the enemy. Can you tell me why, if the mission was planned under Obama, it was rescheduled for AFTER the inauguration? Wasn't Yemen on that list of 7 countries that are terrorist hotspots?
     
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    Draft Dodger Tramp pretended to have bone spurs that never hampered him from playing basketball, golf, or any other sport while he dodged the draft.
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    Yes it seems now, that veterans are all heroes as long as they are Trump supporters, else they are up for being insulted.
     
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    Obama never did either and crapped on Vets for 8 years!
     
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    Obama was not an NBC to boot
    Even Pres Trump admits Pres Obama was born in the states.
     
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    Sen McCain never stops anyone from challenging his position, but Pres Trump, as once again in this case, considers himself above reproach, as well as his supporters.
     
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    This is nothing new, we saw the same thing happen in Georgia when Saxby Chambliss attacked Max Cleland.

    Max Cleland lost both legs and an arm for his country while Chambliss had 5 deferments and guess who was propped up as the real patriot American.
     
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    Being born in the States does not make you an NBC. How is Cruz an NBC when he was born in Canada . Fortunately they have stopped teaching what an NBC is in school and the courts have totally screwed it up. To be an NBC you must be born in the US of parents who are its citizens like most of us are. Again its amazing they can find so many who are not to run
     
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    Blumenthal has proven himself a liar by lying about military service that he didn't do. Mc Cain is an old broken fool.

    Before I can comment on the behavior of a Dildo I'd have to know where you put yours.

    If the liberal horde is so proud of veterans in general and McCain i particular why in the hell did they votes several times for the muslime radical community organizer that proved over and over that he hates not only the military but all Americans?

    Blumenthal said -"We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam.".. But he never left the states. He only joined the Marine reserves after he had exhausted his deferments. Because he was an NCO means that even with college deferments he still couldn't qualify for COS or he feared that if he became an officer he would have to fight in Vietnam.
     
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    Absolutely - he does have that right to say what he likes - and everyone has a right to criticise him for it. He is now the spokesperson for the American people

    Yes the Groper in Chief is now your spokesperson so it would be nice if he reflected the values of your country when he opened his mouth - or tweeted
     

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