Donald Trump, who never served in the military, goes after Senate veterans

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  1. ararmer1919

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    So...... you have proof of that?
     
  2. superbadbrutha

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    The present president avoided it like....................................
     
  3. Injeun

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    Trump didn't attack veterans. He criticized a Senator who criticized a mission that didn't go perfectly. Instead of concentrating on the success of the mission, McCain focused on the part that didn't go as planned. And called it a failed mission, as if the data recovered, and the terrorists killed never happened. And the Navy Seal who died, died for failure. Sheesh, McCain sometimes has a big mouth. But I'm sure that the President's enemies and our nation's enemies love what McCain said. I don't blame Trump for being pi**ed.
     
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    Many guys got out of boot camp because they developed shin splints. I got them and they hurt like hell but I toughed it out, I only had a few weeks to go and you dont have to dig your heels in like in boot once your out
     
  5. Your Best Friend

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    As opposed to who? Clinton and Obama?
    Don't make me laugh.
     
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    Clinton and Obama's families probably didn't have the money to buy their way out like Trump did.

    With that said what makes any of them different? Come to think of it what war did Obama need a deferment for and where did he go to to get out of a war?
     
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    Was Eisenhower ever in actual combat?
     
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    Barry and slick were never openly disrespectful to veterans. Neither were particularly sharp but they were smart enough to know not to criticize the service of those who actually served.
     
  9. edthecynic

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html
    Back in 1968, at the age of 22, Donald J. Trump seemed the picture of health.
    He stood 6 feet 2 inches with an athletic build; had played football, tennis and squash; and was taking up golf. His medical history was unblemished, aside from a routine appendectomy when he was 10.
    But after he graduated from college in the spring of 1968, making him eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam, he received a diagnosis that would change his path: bone spurs in his heels.
    The diagnosis resulted in a coveted 1-Y medical deferment that fall, exempting him from military service as the United States was undertaking huge troop deployments to Southeast Asia, inducting about 300,000 men into the military that year.


    Mr. Trump’s public statements about his draft experience sometimes conflict with his Selective Service records, and he is often hazy in recalling details.
    In an interview with The New York Times last month, Mr. Trump said the bone spurs had been “temporary” — a “minor” malady that had not had a meaningful impact on him. He said he had visited a doctor who provided him a letter for draft officials, who granted him the medical exemption. He could not remember the doctor’s name.
    “I had a doctor that gave me a letter — a very strong letter on the heels,” Mr. Trump said in the interview.

    Asked to provide The Times with a copy of the letter, which he had obtained after his fourth student deferment, Mr. Trump said he would have to look for it. A spokeswoman later did not respond to repeated requests for copies of it.

    And during a news conference last year, Mr. Trump could not recall which heel had been involved, prompting his campaign to release a statement saying it was both.


    For many years, Mr. Trump, 70, has also asserted that it was “ultimately” the luck of a high draft lottery number — rather than the medical deferment — that kept him out of the war.
    But his Selective Service records, obtained from the National Archives, suggest otherwise. Mr. Trump had been medically exempted for more than a year when the draft lottery began in December 1969, well before he received what he has described as his “phenomenal” draft number.
    Because of his medical exemption, his lottery number would have been irrelevant, said Richard Flahavan, a spokesman for the Selective Service System, who has worked for the agency for three decades.
    “He was already classified and determined not to be subject to the draft under the conditions in place at the time,” Mr. Flahavan said.
    In a 2011 television interview, Mr. Trump described watching the draft lottery as a college student and learning then that he would not be drafted.
    “I’ll never forget; that was an amazing period of time in my life,” he said in the interview, on Fox 5 New York. “I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers, and I got a very, very high number.” But Mr. Trump had graduated from Wharton 18 months before the lottery — the first in the United States in 27 years — was held.
     
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    LMAO, yeah I misinterpret, and everyone else. :)
     
  11. ararmer1919

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    This is a lot better. And thanks for posting it. But there is still one problem. Lack of proof. This article details the story, provides some speculation and examples of doubt. But provides no actual verifiable evidence to support the claim that it was all fake. Do you have that proof or no. It's a simple question.

    For the record. I completely believe that he faked to get out of the draft. So did millions of other Americans. Many didn't even try and come up with a medical excuse they just said "in rich and I don't wanna go." And that was that. But if youre going to make a claim then you should back it up with actual proof first.
     
  12. Penrod

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    Not everyone else just you libs and those who went to school too late to learn better

    So tell me why they even have an NBC clause if the child who never spent a day in the US is an NBC

    Using your logic we could have the King of England be our president
     
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    First off Blumenthal never served in Vietnam as he claimed. Secondly, serving your country is a great thing but doesn't make you or your opinion superior to anybody that didn't. Hiding behind your military service is cowardly and offensive to the principles you fought for or were at least willing to fight for if called.
     
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    Now Pres Obama never spent a day in the US, your conspiracy is completely off the wall. :)
     
  15. Penrod

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    It was you who said even if a kid was born here of illegal immigrants and went back the child would be an NBC. Its you who are off the wall

    Wow your slick you removed the post where you said that
     
  16. mdrobster

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    I never said that, nor did I remove any post, nor have I ever removed a post.
     
  17. Penrod

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    So then do you deny that a person born on US soil is an NBC if they are born to illegal immigrants and leave right after the child is born?

    So you never said it ?
    Look what I found

     
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    dude, accept the reality, he is a us citizen natural born. his mom was a us citizen.

    you are now on ignore
     
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    Thats right run away. Looks like youve been caught in an untruth
     
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    I am tired of those who either attack or praise military veterans for political reasons. Senator McCain can and should be attacked for what he does as a senator. No more, no less. As for Senator Blumenthal, if the man didn't serve in Vietnam, then he shouldn't have said he did. But if I understand it right, Senator Blumenthal said he did during a speech and then later corrected it in the same speech. There are times when one means to say something and it comes out differently. I wouldn't hold one misstatement against him. If Trump is going to challenge him, do so on the merits of the Senators senate history and on the merits of his SCOTUS nominee.

    Those who serve in the military do so to protect and defend the United States. That includes every American, every political persuasion, Republican and Democrat alike. As far as I am concerned, Military Service shouldn't be part of partisan politics at all. Debating whether the defense budget should be cut or raised if fine and should be part of political debate. But attacking someone who served or their service record just to gain politically is wrong. Attack these two senators for what they do in the senate, how they vote, what programs they support or don't, even for which nominees they support or do not. Leave their military record and serve alone unless it is pertinent to the issue.
     
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    I love how you try to forgive the serial lying Blumenthal by characterizing his serial lying as a "misstatement".

    Too funny.
     

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