Dr. Ben Carson for V. P. in 2016 and for President in 2024?!

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  1. DennisTate

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    Maybe they can!

    Dr. Ben Carson is an astonishingly quick study!

    In the past he focused his intellect on medicine..... and became great at it........ now..... he is changing his priorities and focusing on what he needs to learn to be a great President of the USA.

    Maybe the learning curve that he goes through over the next two years could assist people who tend to vote Republican to begin to ask better questions........... and maybe those of us who think of ourselves as highly educated could begin to realize that some of the subjects that we felt we had figured out....... perhaps are much more complicated than we had previously understood them to be.

    I am hoping that for some reason or other Dr. Ben Carson will focus some of his time on the case that can be made for and Old Earth and Gap Theory that in no way rules out the events of the Jewish or Christian scriptures!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...ichard-eby-verifies-old-earth-gap-theory.html

    NDE of Dr. Richard Eby verifies old earth and gap theory.
     
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    But he does have courage and ever since 1994 when I read how President Abraham Lincoln had saved American taxpayers four billion dollars in interest payments....... I was convinced that this information needed to be understood by a much higher percentage of us....... or people were going to end up dead........ because ignorance of subjects this serious do get people killed!

    http://www.michaeljournal.org/lincolnkennedy.htm

    A consummate professional politician will tend to ignore information like this...… but Dr. Ben Carson seems like the type of person who might just go on YouTube and make millions of us aware of this very quickly..... so that we can begin to figure out the next step!

    Back in 2006 I tried my best to make more Canadians aware of this...… because the same error as it has been made up here in Canada is the primary reason why hospitals have been facing so many budgets cuts since the 1990's.



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    so you don't have a real answer........I understand.
    What truths is Dr. Carson telling by the way? That prison makes people gay or that evolution isn't real?
     
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    In a certain percentage of cases where somebody is imprisoned for a long time.... their thought patterns might well tend to become more homosexual........ and Darwinian evolutionary theory is only partly correct. Actually...… 99% or more of evolution has probably taken place in higher dimensions of space time and beings with technology far far far far beyond our own....... probably did decide to create an Adam and an Eve..... for many reasons...… which does not mean that they were the first humanoid type creatures to walk the earth.

    Attempting to turn our young people into little clones of Richard Dawkins Ph. D. will not make them happier and more well adjusted...… the type of message given by some near death experiencers can on the other hand help them to have much greater peace of mind.


    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a11


    ...........

    Just in case Dr. Carson or some of his main assistants read this discussion I should also add...…

    http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#a08


     
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    Speaking of Jeb, something major that is in his favor in my opinion, is that his wife was born in Mexico, Jeb has a degree in Latin American Affairs, and generally favors a much more merciful approach to the problem of what to do about so many illegal immigrants.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columba_Bush
     
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    One of the major developments that I personally am hoping will occur over the coming years is the trend toward addressing real problems that people are facing right now, through documentary, reality and semi-reality science fiction films that are partly financed by a modern application of the Worgl, Austria local money experiment.

    In theory, it is possible to address the problem of ethnic cleansing in the Middle East through a series of films set in 1939.

    The moving of refugees from Jordan and Turkey that is occurring through official government agencies.............. is resulting in new immigrants that are mostly Sunni Muslims, who are not really in as much danger as Christians, Ba'hai's, Jews, members of the LBGT community or other minorities.

    I have read that Christians are staying away from refugee camps if at all possible, I assume that being a Christian in a camp ran by Muslims may not be the best place in the world to be.

    I am 95% certain that Dr. Ben Carson would tend to favor a somewhat new form of assistance that is done more so through the private sector.......... so that political correctness doesn't alter the flavor of what is being attempted.

    If a privately owned film company, wanted to attempt to rescue members of the LBGT community of the Middle East, who are in even more danger than Christians, that could be done by taking both the Iraqi or Syrian Gay person, as well as their family, and they could be gotten to Canada or the USA as stars in a series of films.

    I am pretty sure that Dr. Ben Carson would be truthful about the fact that Gay Christians living in Iraq and Syria are in greater danger of being victims of ethnic cleansing, than Muslims living there.



    http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ts-take-937-those-syrian-refugees-canada.html
    Mr. Justin Trudeau, let's take 937 of those Syrian refugees to Canada?
     
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    So you have nothing but hope....
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Plus a little bit of psychology and philosophy......…


    Ecclesiastes 10:19


    "A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things."

    You know..... there truly is a phenomenal level of understanding in that statement!

    Whether King Solomon got extra creative energy from the G-d of Abraham/ YHWH or from aliens who were watching and to some degree guiding humanity or from discarnate former humans.......... may not be as important as the sheer brilliance in that comment itself...… which leads us to..............


    Gen 11:6


    "And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. "
     
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    Right. that means he can legalize all of the South American third world. This will greatly be good for the United States I am sure. :rolleyes:

    If immigration is so good why is the economy doing so bad even though we have millions of immigrants come each year?


    Why do you support diversity?


    Do you believe cultures are equal Dennis?

    What is so special about Jeb Bush and Ben Carsonn?
     
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    You are opposed to political correctness and are voting for Jeb Bush or Ben Carson? lol
     
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    The lunatic fringe is wee wee'd up about a jamoke with no elective experience whatsoever, who has made some truly nutty statements about both scientific and constitutional issues, who has enthusiastically endorsed socialized medicine, and who is clearly not the establishment darling that the GOP moneyed-elite are about to bankroll.

    Yes, his taking advantage of governmental financial assistance to realize a successful career in medicine is commendable, but, realistically, the probability of his being elected to national office approximates that of SpongeBob SquarePants.

    Reality can easily elude those in thrall to media entertainers, and blinded by the fairy dust they copiously sprinkle on them. That's the enchanting realm of make believe.

    Mind you, I wholeheartedly endorse Benny's Rx for efficient, socialized medicine. It has been proven in many advanced nations to be a damned sight better that our nationalized RomneyCare!



    Benny has an impressive resumé in his field of expertise and has a savvy grasp of the problem with parasitic middle-man profiteers insinuating themselves into healthcare, but there is nothing there to suggest he is qualified to lead a nation, nor to be proposed as such by today's GOP.


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    Carson as VP?

    Sure, in a COULTER-CARSON ticket.


    Here's why:


    Ben Carson Crazy Quotes!



    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/24/1387373/-Ben-Carson-Crazy-Quotes





    Last night I was telling some friends that the current Republican clown car of presidential pretenders is so ridiculous that it even makes John McCain--the guy who picked Sarah Palin--look respectable. Every single one of them is an idiot. Every single one of them is plainly incompetent to be president. Every single one of them appears willing to say anything for a vote from the drooling Republican base.

    And then there's Ben Carson. Here's a guy who was renowned around the globe as a neurosurgeon, so he's obviously very bright. But he can't open his mouth without uttering the crazy. Unlike most of the clowns, I think he really believes what he says, so he's the one that concerns me the most.

    This morning on CNN.COM there's a item that Carson just won some kind of southern Republican straw poll. And I thought: this guy says so many crazy things, I just can't remember them all! I wonder if anybody is compiling them.

    And yes they are! If you Google "Ben Carson crazy quotes," there are many hits. Some of the best are below the fold.

    "5 Ben Carson Quotes Proving Why HeÂ’s Too Crazy To Be President" http://www.forwardprogressives.com/... (May 3, 2015). Here are the five crazy quotes (links omitted):

    1. “You know Obamacare is really I think the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. And it is in a way, it is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care. It was about control.”

    2. “Well, my thoughts are that marriage is between a man and a woman. It’s a well-established, fundamental pillar of society and no group, be they gays, be they NAMBLA, be they people who believe in bestiality. It doesn’t matter what they are. They don’t get to change the definition.”

    3. “There comes a time when people with values simply have to stand up. Think about Nazi Germany. Most of those people did not believe in what Hitler was doing. But did they speak up? Did they stand up for what they believe in? They did not, and you saw what happened.”

    4. “Because 9/11 is an isolated incident. Things that are isolated issues as opposed to things that fundamentally change the United Sates of America and shift power from the people to the government. That is a huge shift. You have to take a long-term look at something that fundamentally changes the power structure of America.” [while claiming that Obamacare is worse than 9/11]

    5. “A lot of people who go into prison straight, and when they come out they’re
    gay.”

    Here's another choice collection: "Ben Carson: Politically Incorrect Or Raving Lunatic? Six Quotes Proving Dr. Carson Is A Crazy Person" (May 7, 2015).
    http://www.inquisitr.com/...

    Here's the lede:

    Dr. Ben Carson made medical history in 1987 when he became the first surgeon to separate conjoined twins fused at the head. On May 4, he announced his candidacy for the presidency. At his presidential campaign announcement in Detroit, Carson openly admitted “I gotta tell you something. I’m not politically correct,” which is probably the understatement of the year.

    And now some Carson quotes from that article (links omitted):

    “[Obamacare is] the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery. In a way, it is slavery, because it is making all of us subservient to the government.”

    In an interview with Breitbart, Carson said “I mean, [America is] very much like Nazi Germany. And I know you’re not supposed to say ‘Nazi Germany,’ but I don’t care about political correctness. You know, you had a government using its tools to intimidate the population. We now live in a society where people are afraid to say what they actually believe.”

    Here's another good article: "Top 10 Quotes That Prove Neurosurgeon Ben Carson DoesnÂ’t Have The Brain To Be President" (Nov. 15, 2014). http://www.addictinginfo.org/...

    Here are a few quotes (links omitted):

    7. “Certainly there’s the potential because you have to recognize that we have a rapidly increasing national debt, a very unstable financial foundation, and you have all these things going on like the ISIS crisis that could very rapidly change things that are going on in our nation. And unless we begin to deal with these things in a comprehensive way and in a logical way there is no telling what could happen in just a couple of years.”~Ben Carson, telling Fox News that President Obama might declare martial law and cancel the 2016 Election so he can continue being president, September 2014.

    8. “I think most people when they finish that course, they’d be ready to go sign up for ISIS.” ~Ben Carson, claiming the AP History curriculum will cause students who learn about civil disobedience in this country to join a violent terrorist group, September 2014.

    Oh, I'll stop there. Every time he opens his mouth he commits a gaffe. How can such a brilliant surgeon be such an idiot?





    Yes, COULTER-CARSON for the GOP in 2016!
     
  13. Natty Bumpo

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    Good point. When there were over 11 million illegal immigrants in the country at the end of Bush's eight years, the economy collapsed; only half-a-million more have been added since he absconded, and the economy has continued to slowly recover from his abysmal legacy.

     
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    ...or that Obamacare is the worst thing to happen since slavery. Ben Carson is an idiot savant.
     
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    It is very weird when you see such an obviously intelligent person
    Spout off such non sensical bs
    But then again some pretty intelligent people were nazi or communist
    So maybe we are over rating the effectiveness of human intelligence
     
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    I was not kidding when I referred to him as an idiot savant...

    Definition of IDIOT SAVANT

    1: a person affected with a mental disability (as autism or mental retardation) who exhibits exceptional skill or brilliance in some limited field (as mathematics or music) —called also savant

    2: a person who is highly knowledgeable about one subject but knows little about anything else
     
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    Carson has made statements saying he'd want heavy firearm restrictions on city dwellers and looser laws on the country dwellers. He does not therefore support the 2nd amendment or equal protection under the law. Deal breaker.
     
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    Add his wanting to revive the sound tradition of the Old West to his advocacy of sensible socialized medicine, and you wonder why the wacko birds are so smitten by a dude who has no chance of ever getting anywhere in elective politics anyway


     
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    At this point I'd take a well crafted single payer system existing alongside for pay privatized care over the gigantic dog turd on the table that is ACA. Mandating the purchase of private insurance... that'll sure make the cost of care go down!!

    What I'm not willing to compromise on is the economy and civil liberties. Economy encompasses foreign policy for me (not a foreign adventurism fan) balancing the budget and lowering taxes and spending drastically. Civil liberties seems self explanatory.
     
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    The economy is doing great from a certain point of view. Corporations are making record profits, which is great for shareholders.
     
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    How about from the position of real unemployment is not the number still seeking but those who have entirely given up?
    Yeah the economy is not doing fine.
     
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    Few seem thrilled by the nationalized RomneyCare. A single payer, universal coverage system is the proven, pragmatic way to go if folks weren't so bound by ideological dogma.

    Once the massive subsidies for employer-administered plans have been eliminated, the free market will determine whether there will be any alternative, private plans that are not cost-prohibitive.
     
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    We disagree on this. We had functioning affordable Healthcare decades ago. Over use of emergency rooms, government footing the bill for care and more people having insurance along with the attitude of (*)(*)(*)(*) it the insurance will pay for it etc has really driven up the prices. Having read of the horrors of England's system and spoken with friends who experienced it personally I'd really rather pass on the single payer. But if it'd that or aca I'll take it.
     
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    Despite both the self-interested corporate propaganda, ideological dogma, and genuine shortcomings in some cases of universal coverage systems, the pragmatic reality is that advanced nations have all arrived at a similar approach for legitimate, non-ideological reasons.

    No first-world nation would opt for what the US has been stuck with: a price tag about twice that of most, and tens of millions uninsured whose medical costs have been routinely dumped on the taxpayer. And, yes, many of those uninsured tens of millions were routinely seeking more expensive care in hospital emergency rooms because, lacking insurance, they did not have family physicians from whom to seek treatment.

    If the private sector can survive and profit without the massive taxpayer subsidies that now sustain it, it will, but the empirical data supports the actuarial reality: maximize the risk pool, eliminate repeated duplication of administrative overhead, streamline and standardize record keeping, cut out the middle man's profit margin, huge executive salaries, advertising, marketing and lobbying budgets, and you will have a far more efficient, coherent, and economical system.

    Since such enormous savings would come at the cost of all those bottom-line bureaucrats and others in the industry, the progress would be less painful if phased in by an incremental lowering of the Medicare eligibility age, gradually introducing less costly demographics to the risk pool to join the one that is least attractive to the profit-motivated, the 65+, and already happily left by them to the government.
     
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    Except you miss that doctors routinely abuse the medicaid and Medicare system by performing tests and procedures that are not necessary or by gaming the system such as by a dentist cleaning teeth then capping them then pulling them. The problem of "(*)(*)(*)(*) it someone else is buying" does not go away and in fact gets worse. Not to mention the long wait times and other NHS horror stories. I'm all for reforming the industry I'm just not convinced that the benefits of NHS such as they are outweigh the burdens they create.
     

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