Educated vs "Non-Educated"

Much more so than the anecdotes you posted.

You didn't read the link I posted, obviously.

"More often than not" is proof, my friend. "People I know" is not.

 

You want to include 20 or so people to sway your reality I guess.

 

Classic cherry picking. Red herring. Who makes more money, Clinton voters or Trump voters? Who is more educated, Clinton voters or Trump voters? Education doesn't automatically translate into more money.

 

I have no problem taking my blue collar place at the white collar table because they are eventually going to have to hand it all over to me. After that, if they have any in put, they are more than welcomed to get their hands dirty. Otherwise, they all become spectators, and that's exactly what gets guys like you and me noticed. No degree needed.

 

Show me.

 

You probably have said as many times as I have "OK you are the expert" Only to be called to help fix it.

 

I already did in post #16.

 

There are a lot of self-taught "lawyers" in this forum.

I won't be retaining any of their services.

 

Everybody makes more money at exit polls.

 

I, like most people, rely heavily on my personal experience. Over my many years, I have learned that advanced education may or may not be useful for some people. Ultimately, it comes down to actually working with them to determine their worth. It appeared that an almost universal problem was that they were so tied to their areas of expertise that they could not think outside that area.

Most of my experience outside the Air Force was working with power systems and batteries. As a practical engineer, I was less interested in the detailed chemistry than I am in how to make the things work. In many cases, we just ignored what they said because they were so wrong.

 

How much money did you spend on what degree, and how much of that do you still owe?

The answers to the above are a much better indicator of useful intelligence and future success than whether or not one has a college degree.

Finish high school, don't have children before you get married, keep working, stay sober, tell the truth, don't hurt anybody and don't take their stuff. If you do these things, you'll be fine.

 

I have a friend who grew up down the street from me. He rebuilt his Volkswagen in his parents garage during high school. He became a doctor and didn't enjoy it. He went to work for a plumber installing fixtures in new residential construction to work his way through engineering school. Now he is an engineer at Texas Instruments. I thought his parents were too tough on him when we were young, but now I see their wisdom.

 

That's a lame argument dude. You know it. Be honest. LA Times wasn't an exit poll.

 

I am an expert in a very narrow area of expertise. Like all experts, I have paid a price for my expertise. Everything is a trade off. There are only so many hours in the day and days in a life. I know this and not that. Not knowing that is the price I paid to be an expert at this. I don't know almost everything, and I don't know anything necessarily, but I know masonry. That I know.

 

Wait, you forgot to somehow fit the race card in there! Never miss a chance!

 

Your personal experience is anecdotal. It is not evidence, and certainly not of a global nature.

 

Duct tape works perfectly well

 

It's all you can do lol.

 

I know, you cant fix a broken toe. Lol

 

All personal experience is anecdotal. My personal experience is often presented, indeed paid for, as evidence. I am often called upon to serve as an expert witness in litigation proceedings. In fact, around here, my personal experience is so readily accepted by juries as evidence that litigators often advise their clients to settle rather than try to rebut my experience born opinion.

 

For a $60k sociology degree you can get $12/hr as the night manager

 

Is that doc doing his own ORIF?

 

Reverse that and you have my story.

I grew up with a river in my back yard. I fished, thats all i did i ignored home work had no chores or discipline. When i graduated highschool with mediocre grades i was fortunate enough to find a cabinet shop willing to employ me. I stayed there for 10 years and ended up hating it because it was often hard i quit that and got into the sport fishing industry and worked my ass off and after 20 years i was making just under 40 grand per year. Wife's health forced a move to an arear where there is zero opportunity in that sector and at 48 no one will hire me, even for entry level retail. I mean Walmart won't even give me the time of day.

Point being, discipline your kids, make them work hard, make them do well in school
You're showing that you love them
Letting them run wild and be children? That's not love. It's abdicating your responsibility.

 

I can't tell you the last time that I saw a young man break a figure or a toe, tape it to the one next to it, and finish the day. Stuff like that used to be a right of passage.

 

It may be anecdotal, but it is based on a lot of years of experience dealing with a lot of people and it certainly is evidence. Those years of experience has taught me that if you judge someone based solely on education, you stand a pretty good chance of being wrong.

People with advanced degrees are still just people. They have their biases and weaknesses just like everyone else. You have probably heard the expression "to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail". Their education was most likely specialized and they tend to try to solve all the problems with that limited perspective. Their vision tends to narrow.