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Educated vs "Non-Educated"

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Kal'Stang, Dec 22, 2019.

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Society has developed some false ideas about intelligence - focusing too much on Math and Science. It is not that these are not important but, this is just one kind of intelligence.

    People have different gifts - some are good at Math - others are good at language. Some understand people and are socially skilled, some are good inventors - and so on.

    Normally - when one person is really smart in one area - they will be really dumb in other areas. I often use the example of 2 acquaintances of mine who are Nuclear Physisists - obviously both are very intelligent in one area but both have a social intelligence on the level of a tree stump.

    What is interesting is that both have some very loony political ideas - ones born out of a serious lack of education with respect to society and history.

    When you fill the Brain (cpu) up with math and science - it does not leave room for much else.
     
    Giftedone, Dec 23, 2019
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  2. AKS

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    You are awesome arguing against points that I never made.
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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  3. AKS

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    Math and science are everything. Socially skilled? LOL
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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  4. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My point is simple. An advanced education is a poor indicator of intelligence.
     
    kriman, Dec 23, 2019
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  5. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and your support for this claim is what ?
     
    Giftedone, Dec 23, 2019
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    Blaster3 Well-Known Member

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    education doesn't equate to intelligence...

    education is just another word for indoctrinated...

    those that spout off about being educated aren't fooling anyone but themselves...
     
    Blaster3, Dec 23, 2019
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    Good for you. Now I'm sure you can point to where I said anything different. Still, I'd wager a dime to you dollar that a random sampling of advanced degree holders and High School diploma holders would show a hard correlation between the degree and intelligence.
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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    It's probably not a coincidence that we have a bunch of trumpers railing against education.
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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    Present company excepted, of course.
     
    Pycckia, Dec 23, 2019
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  10. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First, I think we need to truly define "educated".
     
    logical1, Dec 23, 2019
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You say that when democrats have the likes of AOC, Waters, and Johnson that thinks Guam may tip over????????
     
    logical1, Dec 23, 2019
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    We don't do teams, we do gangs.
     
    Heartburn, Dec 23, 2019
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  13. AKS

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    WTF does that have to do with my observation?
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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    Do it.

    Again. My point. Based on many years of experience, I have found that a college education and more advanced degrees are a poor indication of intelligence. The more advanced the degree, the more specialized they tend to be and it tends to make them blind to everything else.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If your dont understand the correlation, you must not be too educated.
     
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    Is AOC posting here? Seriously, what is your point?
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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    A few more truths about schooling and IQ (which may surprise anyone who views it as a measure of innate intelligence):

    • Although intelligence does influence the decisions to stay in school, staying in school itself can raise IQ or prevent it from dropping.
    • IQ is affected by delayed schooling. A drop in IQ is seen when schooling is delayed.
    • Each additional month a student remains in school may increase her/his IQ above what would have been expected had he dropped out.
    • IQ is affected by remaining in school longer. The longer a student stays in school, the higher her/his IQ.
    • Dropping out of school can also decrease IQ.
    • IQ is affected by vacations. The longer the vacation, especially when the child's time is spent on least "mind-stimulating" activities, this decline is evident.
    In short, schooling has a long-term effect on the level of intelligence. Education increases a student's capacity to deal with the problem solving tasks typically found in intelligence tests; therefore a student who has mastered those skills at school will inevitably do well on an IQ test.
    https://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-education.php
     
    ronv, Dec 23, 2019
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    Taking the right courses in college, maybe, but no guarantee.
     
    squidward, Dec 23, 2019
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    Great, the sociology majors can climb 0.5 standard deviations from the 30th to the 50th percentiles. They should do well as the McDonalds night shift manager and maybe one day move out of Mom's basement into their own studio apartment
     
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    One things for certain, nobody will be able to refute your anecdotal evidence. Poor indicator, eh? And how did you go about quantifying the intelligence of these advanced degree holders? And how did you come to such an absurd conclusion?
     
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    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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  21. squidward

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    I'm libertarian, railing against dolts wasting money on degrees with stupid majors, driving up the costs for legitimate students
     
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  22. kriman

    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Working with PhDs who couldn't find their a$$ with both hands.
     
    kriman, Dec 23, 2019
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    LOL ok
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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  24. AKS

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    You don't sound very libertarian.
     
    AKS, Dec 23, 2019
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  25. squidward

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    In what way?
     
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