Einstein on God

I already have, several times. Maybe you should get a hold of your emotions and actually read what people write for a change?

Once again, now the subject is about your hurt feelings. Boo hoo.

Amazing.

Oh well, Have fun with the whine fest, again. I have no desire to listen to your insults and self righteous swill this evening.

Einstein's views on God remain complex, insighful, honest, and engaging. He still isn;t an atheist thought. And you'll just have to live with the fact that intelligent well read people realize atheists are being uneducated dorks when they attempt to usurp that mantel as their own.

We call it commandment #10 BTW, and best avoided.

I do not need Einstein to be Christian - just Einstein.

 

Of course atheism is defined through theism! What did you think?

The difference between theism and deism is referenced frequently here, I have specifically referred to the narrow definition of theism before.
Hint: history of deism and how it was view ibn the 18th and 19th century.

It's really quite simple: theism, in a narrow sense, as related to deism, advocates a personal god.
In this sense, and only in this sense, is Einstein an atheist.

Personally, I avoid going down this road, since it can easily be misconstrued by peopole who are not familiar with the territory - as we have just seen.

 

No, it's rather that you insist on indulging in personal insults, and then accuse the other of whining when asked to refrain from it.

Is this more than flamebaiting and trolling?

Demonstrate that you can respond to the actual content relating to Einstein and the terms used in a meaningful manner.

 

Atheism: the doctrine or belief that there is no God. Einstein believed in God (albeit a non personal one). Therefore Einstein was not an atheist.

I can't believe people are arguing over this. It's a non issue.

 

So most of the founding fathers will then cause they were scientists.

 

FYI, I am a theist sir. I just find it ironic that you do the very same things that you fault atheists for doing. Let me know when you apply the same standard to theists who constantly attack atheism. Sound familiar???

 

Well, unlike atheists, I also routinely separate atheist conduct on this forum from the reality of 'many atheists' and put in the term 'modern atheists' to differentiate.

The idea that I have to do this every time while pointing out the increasingly common and accepted practices of atheists? Silly.

I am well aware of that many atheists are good people, and I am equally aware that modern atheism is increasingly become hijacked by the dishonest, disingenuous, and frankly obstinate.

Read that quote I gave you, and then realize that ONLY ONE ATHEIST has repudiated it .... after being given the option of defending it - then, suddenly it wasn't so air tight.

Unfortuantely, on this forum, pointing out the trends of atheism and atheist conduct is not a generalization. Atheism is slipping down the old trust ladder for a reason.

When atheists actually engage in thoughful discussion, they will get it in return. How exactly are you supposed to respond tos omeone who thinks they alone, by dint of watching a single you tube video, are the possesors of full knowledge on Einstein and need to tell you how stupid you are?

It isn;t generalization to point out that this kind of behavior is silly, and it is not generalization to point out that the practice of using Einstein as an atheist poster child is quite common.



Like I said, in this case it isn't generalization - its fact. Commandment #10.

Treating the atheist position that Einstein was an atheist as if it has merit is an affront to history, Einstein, and the reality of atheism. THat simple.

 

Nobody is hailing Einstein as an "atheist poster child" here, apart from that silly cartoon you've thrown in.

This thread is not about your pet subject of how dispicable atheism and atheists are, ...if you have an intelligent on topic comment to add to throw further light on Einstein's religiousity, please do.

 

The opposite of everything a Christian says. Take it up with the OP and the constant demand that we watch the damb You Tube video.

Atheists aren't despicable. People who hide their anger, bigotry, and personal demons behind a wall of legitimate atheism are despicable.

You aren't even debating, just putting words and ideas into other people's thoughts so you can dump on them.

That, unfortunately, has come to define modern atheism. Not that a modern atheist would ever acknowledge it .... they will perpetually be victim and aggressor, the only real demon they battle being their own ego.

Even real atheists are saddened by it.

 

Now here is one that everyone needs to listen to. It is entitled "Albert Einstein on God". It contains numerous quotations attributed to good ole Al.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iXKIf2XOfA&NR=1"]Albert Einstein on God - YouTube[/ame]

 

That vid has been posted already, Inq.
It omits Einstein's critical stance against the organised Abrahamic religions and the controversy his comments caused at the time - I find the OP's clip more honest and complete.

Thanks for confirming that you are unwilling to contribute more than the customary anti-atheist diatribes... could it be your own ego and personal past you are struggling with here?

A pity, even real theists are saddened by it, since Einstein's views on religion are well worth exploring and looking at closely.

 

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