Elon Musk's response to Sydney stabbing footage prompts fury,

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04...ia-crackdown-after-sydney-stabbings/103750548

This is an Australian story with international implications.

It is not the first time the Australian government has considered putting some brakes on social media reporting of incidents. Following the Christchurch attacks in NZ the Aus government lobbied international partners to consider reigning in the ability of social media platforms to publish what they like when they like.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04...ia-crackdown-after-sydney-stabbings/103750548

The proposed actions are not to stifle free speech but to hold social media companies to the same standards as news organisations

The Insiders has an in depth review on this

 

Australia should fall in line with China, Russia and countries like N Korea..

Internet censorship in China.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Int...websites,content and monitors Internet access.

 

How much real life blood and guts do you want kids to see on TV or live streamed?

 

I'm on the side of Australia's ministry of propaganda.. They should as soon as possible adopt China's style of internet access..

 

There are four issues here that I see.

1. How much blood and guts do we see.
2. People **** stirring on social media and creating dangerous situations because human beings seem to be incredibly mature not able to make their own decisions and deal with controversial information in a rational manner. Therefore government needs to step in and tweak posts that lead to hate and illegal behaviour..

3. Censorship. Would you believe I had no idea the stabber was Islamic until I had a look at the posts on X. We have the right to know things such as this as well as complete back stories.

I've had a cursory glance at media and I still don't know what the whole thing was about. This is unacceptable.

4. International laws. X needs to obey our local laws. But I don't think we can really do much about posters in America commenting on videos of Australia. And if Australian members want to join in that discussion overseas even if that's against Australian guidelines and laws there's not much Australia can do about it. We are entering a new digital age and govs need to cope with that.

 

So, you are just trolling.

 

Step One has already been accomplished by disarming the citizenry.

Looks like they need to take the pointy objects away now.

 

It doesn't take Chinese control to get people to obey the law.

 

That's what we need. More guns! following the success of America!

 

No, I'm serious, Australia needs to throttle access to protect their people from misinformation..

 

It be easier to control abuse that way..

 

Didn't look like it helped you much on this one. Too bad someone could not have been there to put a stop to it with a gun. Nothing quite takes the wind out of somebody's sails armed with a knife quite like a gun.

Here in America pulling out a knife and doing things like that can be very bad for your health in a hurry.

 

That's the point, Australia needs to take strong action to control content from places like the U.S.

 

It seems the "WHOLE" story getting out is more of an issue then the stabbing..

 

Apparently Russian trolls in Twitter staged an innocent man as the killer, which put him in danger. And they picked him only because he is Jewish. Pretty soon the false claims were re-posted hundreds of thousands of times.

Elon Musk can defend his Twitter all he wants, but that kind of anti-semitic hate campaign which targets an individual is not 'free speech' . He should be ashamed of himself trying to defend that kind of Russo-Arab crap.

Benjamin Cohen was falsely accused of the Bondi Junction stabbings. Here's how the lie spread around the world
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04...pread-after-bondi-junction-stabbing/103708210
For 14 hours over the weekend, Sydney university student Ben Cohen was one of the most reviled men on the internet after he was falsely accused of being the knifeman who went on a stabbing rampage in a Sydney shopping centre, killing six people.

The ABC has pieced together how anti-semitic and pro-Kremlin accounts turned Mr Cohen into an internet villain.

The trail was uncovered using social media analysis, datasets provided by disinformation experts, archives provided by anti-fascist research group the White Rose Society, as well as interviews with Mr Cohen, his family and the accounts spreading false claims about him.

"It's extremely disappointing to see thousands of people mindlessly propagating misinformation without even the slightest thought put to fact-checking or real-life consequences," Mr Cohen told the ABC.

"And then using that information to push an agenda and spread hatred."

 

The government has already taken their guns away, now they can take away whatever else it is they want from the citizens..... Including access to information.

Freedom is a scary thing and people must be protected from it.

 

As you well know, that is not what the OP is suggesting.

 

How much real life blood and guts live action do you want to have in your living room via your TV or laptop etc?

 

The campaign which took place in Twitter (X) is already against the law in US.

Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 - Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969) A state may not forbid speech advocating the use of force or unlawful conduct unless this advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action.

 

What's the latest on that story where the Aussies were trying to charge someone in America for inciting someone over there to murder or violence? I thought that sounded pretty strange and dubious. Is their government on some kind of massive power trip?

 

Oh! Bunkum! Even in America you do not have complete freedom of speech. Neither do you have complete gun freedom

 

Forgotten how to use a search engine?

 

That's absolutely the narrative..

I can see why Australia feels the need to spoon feed their citizens now

 

Clearly the Australian government knows best what their commoners should be exposed to..

 

Lols! The opposite (and more rational view) reigns here - thank god he couldn’t get a gun or we would have had 10- 20 times as many killed. I mean America is well armed and less than 5% of it mass shootings are stopped by a “good guy with a gun”