Elon Musk's response to Sydney stabbing footage prompts fury,

And the video Musk want to leave up is a video of an act of terrorism. It is the church stabbing that triggered a riot

 

We know what the problem is, but I dont think we can hold twitter, or any other social media platform responsible for what their users post. The real problem lies with the users and that they read something, and as long as they agree with it, it must be true. We are currently in a factless society and we don't seem to care. Everyone goes to their media platform of choice, and no matter what the actual facts are, they believe whatever that source makes up as long as they agree with it.

Look at it this way, Fox News just paid a billion $$$ fine for lying. It was proven that they lied, and then when the transcripts from the trial came out, their talking heads literally told their audience they were lying and they did it all for the money, they said they didn't care that they lied because they made more money. They then told you they would do it again. Fox News ratings went up. Then when Fox News fired some of them, their audiences followed them. Thats says a whole lot more about the current republican voter, than it does about Fox. Thats why, even on this board, it amazes me that people still quote Tucker, ir Hannity, or any of these other liars. But because they are on unregulated platforms, their is no real way to hold them accountable.

But lets be clear perfectly clear, the current republican voter does not care about facts, they want to be lied to for confirmation bias to rule their world.

 

It’s just truth… what’s scary about that? Should the US delete all videos of 9-11?

 

Of course speech can be used to commit treason as per Constitution definition of "adhering to their enemies" and its probably the most common way.

 

We cannot hold them directly responsible BUT they can choose what is and is not displayed on the platforms ergo the use of a “code of conduct”. As I said one of the videos in question was an act of terrorism - should those be circulations on the internet?

 

And should they allow videos of beheadings?

 

They do…. One of the most disturbing videos I seen was on YouTube. And yes they should allow them. People need to understand how cruel some people are. Knowing this may keep you alive.

 

And would you be happy with your teenage daughter viewing this? What if they were also used as recruitment? How about videos of the young children shot at Uvalde?

 

Adhering is an action beyond speech. If someone came out and just said I support Russia and what they stand for. Or came out and said I support al-Qaeda they can’t just be found for treason or arrested for terrorism. They had to do something like try and aid them. Speech is NOT treason.

 

I wouldn’t care if any of my kids seen the world for what it is. I don’t know how else I can say this and how many damn times it needs to be said. I’m pro speech! Knowing people can really go off the deep end may save your life.

 

So you would be OK with shots of the murdered children at Uvalde? The one so badly mangled that DNA evidence was needed? I am just trying to find your cut off as there seems to be no cut off. Paedophilia Ok???

 

Isn’t it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions#:~:text=Categories of speech that are,property law, true threats, false

“Obscenity….. so if Stormy posted pics of a naked Donnie “doing” her - that would be OK?

Mind you the nausea even the thought of that evokes would put Ozempic off the market

 

Police Activity has thousands of videos of police shootings. I remember the fake news going national about a police shooting in Chicago a couple weeks ago. They claimed a black man was shot because of a seatbelt violation. I went to Police Activity and witnessed the suspect refusing orders to roll his window down, following by the suspect opening fire and striking a black officer in the hand. The convicted felon with an active warrant then got lit up and died. Good riddance. The man was not shot because of a seatbelt violation, he was shot because he was attempting to murder police officers.... wounding one in the process.

The purpose of raw video is to prove when the MSM is actively lying about a news story to serve their bent narrative. The purpose of the state banning such videos is to allow MSM to lie about reality and there being no publicly available footage to prove they are lying.

The threat to America is not the raw video being available. The threat to America is MSM/government attempting to ban raw videos so they can control what Americans think about reality.

 

Dayam! But I am glad I live in what is essentially a gun free zone. If our cops shot someone at a traffic stop…….shakes head….. mind you they do not have to fear for their lives stopping people for traffic violations

 

Adhering can OBVIOUSLY be speech. Saying "I support Russia" is your example, not mine. Speech can me used to help our enemies in countless ways, like sharing information, maps, plans and promoting enemy lies or deliberately misleading the US in favor of the enemy (like telling them to take a route which will be ambushed), or anything that amounts to betraying your country at time of war. But its not just treason which falls outside your freedom of speech, and I already explained the other examples, so there is no point in repeating them.

 

Its funny the same people the who insist free speech is 100% limitless, also cheered when Florida banned all social media for people under 18. They can't even watch Donald Duck on YouTube. Everything is censored.

 

Cause, you know... Mommy knows best.... This is what actually happens when you let folks believe they have the authority to "protect" the citizens.... Tyranny down under.

 

Sharing sensitive information is beyond speech LMAO come on you know that’s not speech. That’s espionage. You didn’t explain any examples that speech falls under treason. Espionage is an act of intentionally getting government information or sensitive information and giving it to foreign countries. That’s an act that’s also outside of speech.

 

And who cheered this?

 

Yes, treason and espionage is often committed by speech. How is this so complicated for you? How can speech be outside of speech? You are not making any sense.

 

RW Authoritarian DeSantis fans.

 

Actually we can. They use public internet to display their content. How is that any different than the public “airwaves”. We changed the technology used to deliver the message, but we didn’t change the owner….