English football hooliganism rears its ugly head again

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    Russian revives the dead Stalin. Soon Russian occupy the whole of Europe. And all adult Europeans taken away to Siberia, to the Gulag. Russian will eat european children.... At least, as the Western media reported. :smile:
     
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    There may be some truth in your supposed sarcasm. Is Stalin not again popular in Russia? The gangs I spoke of are well known. Indeed we have had reporters in Russia making films of them particularly with their violence towards gays, so no, my knowledge is not based on tabloids but more about seeing and listening to Russians own words as well of course as reading and of course your own posts. I am pretty sure it was you who put in a post of Russians beating the hell out of Muslim Refugees which our far right posters were congratulating you for was it not. Have you not put in posts degrading gays to illustrate your manliness?...and now it is football and that is about fighting to you.

    Russia certainly has an interest in seeing the EU disintegrate and replaced by countries joining her Eurasion Union and she has some support in European groups and parties which Russia helps gain influence both monetarily and through air time on RT. I was not meaning we need to watch Russia for this giving reason to your drama queen post, but that where we need to keep an eye out is on the actions of the far right in Europe.

    The rest of what I presented pretty much goes with your posts, nationalism and the only way to put it is 'thug culture'. You believe it is right for young men to fight violently. Most people in the West believe it is better to deal with things by discussion. You believe you should shed blood if someone stands on your flag, most people could not give a damn and particularly when you have already been fighting people it is kind of something you might expect. Seemingly you put flags above people and most of us put people above flags. These differences, your nationalism, your belief that it is manly to beat people up, your authoritarianism and so on are differences of culture which most people do not want to emulate.
     
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    You wanna say the Russian fans came to France to beat gays and muslims??? It's crazyness.

    Don't you parrot what you was told to think? Because everything what you say is written in top English newspapers.

    Targets in gay club is an Amercian story, not Russian one.

    Russia is also funding refugee crisis, unemployment in EU, floods, earthquakes, heat waves and also mass death of dolphins on Faroe Islands.
     
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    According to The Guardian Russia launched hybrid war against France (and Britain):

    Yeah, it's really difficult to prove. It's always difficult to prove nonsense. ;) But there is no need to prove. English readers can it this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) without proofs. :)
     
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    It's true America is pretty bad, however it's mostly British Americans making it so.

    It's one British American president after another supporting war, after war.

    The most British region of the U.S.A the U.S South is also the biggest war supporting region in the U.S.A.
     
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    I am not saying that. French intelligence are saying that. Have you not been reading anything. At the same time they do say that Russia managed to keep most of her thugs at home.


    Quit the personal attacks or I will report you. Read all that is said and don't try to take things out of context then answer that.
    a) what in particular - otherwise it cannot be argued and b) if this is just another personal attack, please note what I said above.

    We are not discussing the US here. Stop trying to change the story.

    That is irrelevant to discussion.
     
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    I think your making this up. Point to one post in this thread that suggests the Russian Football violence was sanctioned by the Kremlin.

    This from your quote is of course true

    and quotes of his boss encouraging the violence have been put in.
     
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    You write nonsense. Russian - kindest people in the world. They suffer long, but if demented fanatic has no limits in insults, Russian will fight. Russian are ready to die rather than surrender. (For example, maybe you've heard about the Russian soldier who caused the fire to myself in Syria he was killed, but did not give up..) For you - this is a stupid. For Russian - it's a natural thing to do. The difference in mentality.

    Why do you always write about gays?....
    Gays - a mentally ill people. It has long been proved. As well as bestiality, pedophiles, murderers-maniacs, transvestites, kleptomania so on. Gay disease - is very similar to paranoia (split personality). For example a man feels like a woman. Or a woman feel like a man.
    I do not understand what relation gays have to football? Perhaps in Britain, football is played gay? Or British bolelshiki - gay? Why do you write in this thread about gays?

    In Russia there is no nationalism (perhaps with the exception of a few crazy).
    In Russia, historically living several hundred nationalities. Also in Russia living people with different religion. For example 20 million Muslims live in Russia historically. These peoples lived together for thousands of years. Fought against the common enemy, together rebuild their country, they lived in sorrow and in joy. Of course, the main nationality - Russian. If I'm not mistaken, 82% and 83% - Russian. But, as I wrote above, the Russian people are very kind. Therefore, they respect other nationalities. Of course, if other - respected Russian. Russian has never staged a genocide, such as the British. (Think of the Tasmanians, or Native American). Therefore, you do not read the Western media. This is bad for the brain.

    P/S:
    Stalin is popular in Russia. It's true. Moreover, Stalin's popularity is growing every day. Therefore, most likely, the next president of Russia can be conditionally "Stalin." Therefore, you should worship Putin. And wish him a long life.
    I do not understand the crazy western politicians - why they want Putin to quit. It's a mystery to me. Really the West there are no experts on Russia? They need to know that Putin could change only on "Stalin."
     
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    You have just described Britain during its heyday. There were only 22 nations Britain didn't invade. The US doesn't have an "empire," but it basically ended yours.
     
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    How, exactly, did the US end the British empire? Oh, and as to your original point Britain isn't doing the bombing, invading, regime manipulation or overthrowing of democracies. America is. Empires these days are called 'spheres of influence' and yours is really no different to how the British empire was. Monroe doctrine?
     
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    Now to put everything in perspective, and to get off this 'let's demonize the Russians thing'. In Lyon about 50 French fans attacked the English, who probably provoked them with the usual insults and name callings, and the British defended themselves again in their usual way by throwing bottles, chairs and everything else they could get their hands on. I would love to know who pays for all this?

    Hungarian and Spaniard ultras have now arrived to give their own input to the nationalist 'wars' going on, while the French police will have about 2,000 special forces and security forces at Toulouse for the game between Russia and Wales.

    As for the so called Russian fans who committed crimes, the British, French and Russians are trying hard to identify them. I find it strange that Russians who are in the Marshall arts, well trained and proud of the physical prowess would resort to hitting someone with a metal rod. There was talk of some who spoke Russian but were not Russian among them..

    I do hope they identify them. The British have asked all their fans to send them whatever pictures they have taken.
     
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    Oh, so now you hope the Russian thugs (who never attacked anyone, remember?), are identified? What for, so you can congratulate them on their manly prowess as they shot flares and other fireworks at women and children and left men in critical condition after being beaten with iron bars?

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/681179/Russian-thugs-face-attempted-murder-charge
     
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    They hate Vladimir Putin because he is a real Christian ...which means he has morals and values, and it's a threat to those who have none. If he was gay or a transvestite, or even worse a hypocrite and liar who likes to start wars like Obama and Hillary to show the world who is boss, then they would be singing his praises...

     
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    "...morals and values..."!:roflol:

    Whose Christian morals and values did he steal before he set out to murder his political opponents? A "real Christian". I've heard it all now.
     
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    Flares are being thrown by other fans as well... but that's not being written up by the MSM now is it?

    I want the police to identify them because there was word before the games that there were some Ukrainian Nazis who had been passing themselves off as Russian.

    Of course if they do find out they were not Russians, it will never be mentioned in the propaganda outlets... and you know that, and I know that.
     
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    How odd, and after the French had become so panicky that they upgraded the amount of police in Toulouse to 2,000. It could be that the Welsh are not troublemakers...and prefer singing to throwing bottles and chairs. I saw a video where hundreds of them were serenading the French police ...something which pleased the police no end.
     
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    This is what the Welsh and Russian fans are singing: ''(*)(*)(*)(*) off England - We Russia and Wales'.'

    [video=youtube;n2Jqp_1xcEI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2Jqp_1xcEI[/video]
     
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    You're right. Western politicians love scoundrels. For example to them liked the alcoholic Yeltsin, who fired from tanks on their own parliament. And criminal Yeltsin was for them a Democrat. This is because Western politicians - hypocritical scoundrels.
     
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    Your lock-step refusal to even acknowledge your precious Ultras might be to blame is nauseating beyond belief.
     
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    Dear Jeanette :blowkiss: DEAR

    PAH-Leeze clean out your :wink: (*)(*)(*)(*)ing inbox.

    :oldman:
     
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    Just wanted to jump in here and say OMGuuurrd Lionel Messe is unreal, better field control than Pele by far.

    He just made us look like a high school team, wow, Argentina, powerhouse.
     

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