English football hooliganism rears its ugly head again

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How such useful insight can suddenly put an anti-Russian on the back foot??!!
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A pissed-up Welsh male voice choir? I bet that was a treat. A Welsh male voice choir is bad enough when it's sober! [​IMG]
     
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    Watch some Barcelona matches when they were in their prime a few years ago. Messe & gang were amazing. I have only seen Pele on videos and I cannot see why he is so rated. One clip, I think from a world cup game, that is regularly shown is him one on one with the goalie and he dummies the ball and then he misses the goal! How is that good play?. Maradona was a lot better than Pele. Messe is more skilful but Maradona carried Argentina in his time.
     
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    That is not what is nauseating, it's things like this that are nauseating:

    This weekend, in the Observer, things reached a new low. The paper’s “policy editor,” Daniel Boffey, published a single-source story headlined “Whitehall fears Russian football hooligans had Kremlin links.”

    Boffey claims that “a significant number of those involved in savage and highly coordinated attacks on England fans and others in Marseille and Lille have been identified as being in the uniformed services" (of Russia). He goes on to add that “the theory is that the sanctioning of hooliganism by Putin is a continuation of what has been described as Russia’s campaign of 'hybrid warfare.'"


    There it is again, the 'hybrid warfare' bit. The Guardian/Observer wants everyone to believe Vladimir Putin has an evil plan to have 150 soccer thugs destabilize the EU. ..if you can believe it. Of course insulting and provocative acts like this by the English fans had nothing to do with it....

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    I agree that Maradona was better than Pele. Football was also much faster by the time Maradona was playing so it was much harder and the defenders were better. It would have been interesting to see Pele play in a modern setting because we will never know how good he really was. He was much better than anyone playing at his time.
     
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    Of course, your protege`s actions have consequences. Russians beat up English citizens, murdered one Englishman, so you will be faced with such counter-actions. Such videos are the reaction to Russian savage actions.
    There`s a lot hooligans among football fans. But only Russians advocate hooligans` crimes.
     
  7. Jeannette

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    Why do you say the Russians advocate hooligan crimes? The Kremlin is making a list of the troublemakers. What the Russian fans did though was a reaction to the English provocations, not the other way around. The fights began when the English began mocking and throwing racist remarks at the Tunisians and the Russians began supporting them and the police. It's not the first time though the English destroyed Marseille, and the police should have been better prepared for them. They destroyed the city also in 1998 when they started fighting with the Tunisians.

    No one died as far as I know, but someone was beaten with an iron bar and that's what I find strange. The Russians are all in the Marshall arts so they use their fists and legs...as you can see in the videos. The ones throwing chairs and bottles and other things are the English fans, so I can't understand how a Russian who is proud of his prowess, would pick up an iron bar to beat someone up when he could have knocked the daylight out of him with his arms and legs. Anyway the Russian, French and British are searching all the photos to identify the culprit.

    Considering there were 2,000 English fans, and only 200 Russians ones at the most, why did the English need to pick up chairs and throw bottles... even at the police? What about the owners of those establishments, did the English feel that as long as they are in France they can destroy their property and treat them as trash? I see a lot of racism and arrogance here.
     
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    Putin said, Putin said... There is no evidence that Russians were provoked to do crime at the stadium. But you advocate your fans - for you they did right.
    Your fans went to France for single purpose - to fight, to gain the fame similar to English fans in 19xx. But your intention is belated, it`s not the fad nowadays.
    There is another point - not Russian fans action but Russians backing crimes is the feature. It`s your feature.
     
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    sounds like a threat. a very silly and pathetic one.

    i guess all the Kremlin has left, is silly threats they know won't come true.

    :roflol:
     
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    No threat.....in Russia living strange sculptor Tsariteli (the smallest of his sculpture - 20 meters in height). He promised to break the statue of liberty in New York and put in its place a huge statue of Felix Dzherzhinsky. (Tsereteli is now kept in a straitjacket, but Putin promise to release Tsereteli in the US) And inside a sculpture made the cameras for the prisoners. That is to say - the branch of the Gulag. Prison guard will be drunken Siberian bears. And each bear on the chest under the fur will be tattoo portrait of Stalin. The tattoo is written in the style of Kandinsky or Malevich.
    By the way, Instead of a siren in the statue-prison will be played overture from "Swan Lake" by Tchaikovsky.
     
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    NATO gives Russia sanctions.

    OPEC lowers the price of oil to $27 a barrel

    the Russian ruble drops 60% against the dollar, Yen, Yuan, and Euro.

    how does Russia respond? with silly threats.

    LOL!!!!! :roflol:
     
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    Just small remark, since Russia had occupied Crimea, Russian ruble has dropped from 30 to 60 (devaluation about 100%) with some spikes to 75.
    "Russia does not afraid sanctions"(R), of course :) USSR did not afraid too, up to its failure
     
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    Ever since Russia helped free the people of Crimea from the fascist junta in Kiev, my favorite writer and expert in international politics and economics Pepe Escobar, made this insightful observation:

    "It’s like clockwork. Oil price is on the rise again, as this column foresaw earlier this year. And the increasing possibility of Brexit is sending EU decision centers on a tailspin.

    So it's time for US Think Tankland – as in CIA front Stratfor, among others – to renew their spin offensive, mixing “analyses” of imminent Russian economic collapse with calls for more NATO pressure over Russia’s western borderlands.

    If you believe that all this anti Russia propaganda is not to prepare the Europeans for a war, then you are very naive.
     
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    Messi and maradonna are uncannily similar. I dont think you can split them tbh but they are the top 2 players of all time and both argies. What luxury
     
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    Yes, as Nazi helped Sudeten Germans and Germans in France in the past - you helped by occupation and oppression others minorities nowadays.

    Russian propaganda documentary “Crimea. The Way Home” shown in Russia on 15 March 2015 was inspired by the 1939 German Nazi documentary “German Sudetenland Returns Home”.

    Both videos portray German/Russian aggressors as saviors and liberators, and both try to convince their audience that invasion of neighboring countries and annexation of their territories is a legitimate right of the country-aggressor.

    The irony is that in both of these propaganda videos the invaded countries (Czechoslovakia and Ukraine) are shown as cruel monsters and fascists, while the fascist regimes that attacked these countries are shown as peaceful liberators. According to these videos, Russia has saved Crimean Russians from devilish Ukrainians, just as Germany saved Sudeten Germans from devilish Czechs.


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    By the way, there is no money for occupied Crimea

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    There is nothing worse, than hungry Russian galloping on drunken bears.

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    But even worse - an attack of Russian women.

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    However, Russian is already in New York.

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    You said about Destroyer of Illusions that:
    And you're complaining about personal attack? You must rethink your behaviour before trying to self-proclaim yourself a social conscience.

    Why discussing a gay club in Yekaterinburg is ok, and discussing a gay club in Orlando is wrong?
     
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    Who is his boss?
     

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