Even as vaccine numbers rise, Democrats double down on masks

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  1. ronv

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    Yep. Flu is easier.

    As COVID-19 raged last year, the seasonal flu all but vanished, according to data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    During the 2019 flu season from Sept. 29 to Dec. 28, the CDC reported more than 65,000 cases of influenza nationwide. During the same period this flu season, the agency reported 1,016 cases.

    Health experts said that high vaccination rates against the flu – combined with social distancing, mask-wearing and hand-washing employed to stop the spread of the coronavirus – played a huge role in preventing influenzatransmission.

    The drop occurred despite a sixfold increase in testing at public health labs, most of which checked for influenza A and B along with the coronavirus.

    Flu cases hit record low in 2020 amid COVID, CDC says. Here's why. (usatoday.com)

    Just a matter of time I suppose before a mutation works around the current vaccine.
     
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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    True enough it seems. I got the flu shot in October and the China virus vaccines in February and March. I only wear a mask now where they require it that I absolutely have to go to.
     
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    Seems like stores could just run a wand over us and only allow those with the CIA microchip enter their doors. :) I am not sure the honor system would really work in terms of those who have had the vaccine don't have to wear a mask but those who have had it do. I just hope that eventually the numbers drop so low stores stop mandating it
     
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    Perish the thought.
     
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    Clearly this is not about public health, and never has been.

    As Senator Paul pointed out to Fauci, this is about theater. He forgot to mention it's also about profits and submission to authority.
     
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    HMM, mask mandates, lock-downs, restrictions even on local travel, hefty fines for non-compliance, yet Europe sees mutations (like all viruses do) and needs to once again do all of the ineffective measures they did before. Leftists do what leftists do

    Covid is endemic just like other corona viruses; it's not going away.
     
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    It's not that freaking hard to wear a mask and wash hands, like wearing all gear riding a motorcycle in Florida, it's just some people are Squat-to-Leaks and can't handle a little discomfort.
     
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    ahhh, but are we forced to wear long pants, boots, helmets, gloves and armor to ride?

    If you choose to wear none, and ride, if you get into an accident than chances of survival are reduced. But, you get to choose.

    Masks have not been proven to eradicate covid as we see those who are masked up still contracting Covid and those who gather around others unmasked, do not. Death rate is dropping in FL and around the country. Folks have had time to build up their immune system and the jab helps as well.

    MAsking up has basically become to some, a symbol of moral superiority
     
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    I did notice that old Joe didn't get the covid like the maskless Trump...
     
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    At least you don't have to smell bad breathe when they wear a mask.
     
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    Choices usually involve the things that don't spit on others; the "libertarian" or "liberal" gets all upset if his ox gores someone a second time because the real libertarian would kill him and the ox without the least bit of mercy.

    When Hudson was swapping spit with Doris, that's fine, they could swap spit all day, it was their choice, just don't claim the virgin wasn't one because "no reported case" of catching it by dentist is so-called "science."

    My wearing gear doesn't spit on you, your bloody splatter could spit on others when that head pops like a grape and we have to pay taxes so someone can feed you with a spoon.

    I don't demand perfection, I'm more than willing to wear the mask or helmet, and wash my paws, and let your head pop like a grape, or let you ride without air bag vest (I don't have by the way).

    Something that stops the slobbering speaker giving you a bath isn't about irradiating, it's about the choice not to be spat upon by Rock Hudson...

    Some slobbering spit monster or some heavy mouth breather with Covid could have already deliberately killed you; if they put their hands up for a second after randomly spitting..., don't shoot, the "liberals" get really upset at real justice.
     
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    off topic but air bag vest? I've not even heard of it. I have armor in my jacket but an airbag on your chest????
     
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    Oscars Attendees Must Wear Masks… But Only Off-Camera.
    In Show Of Solidarity, COVID-19 Vows Not To Infect Anyone Protesting Inequality.
     
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    The masks don't protect YOU they protect everyone else FROM you. They prevent the SPREAD of the disease, not the disease itself. We know that people with no symptoms can still have and spread the virus and we have no way of knowing if vaccinated people can spread it or not.

    Once enough people are vaccinated we'll have the much-touted "herd immunity" and not have to worry, as most people won't be able to catch it anyway. (And **** those who willfully refuse to get vaccinated. Actions have consequences as all my conservative friends constantly and gleefully tell me, maybe the disease itself is sort of a Darwinian culling of people just too ****** conservative to live. A method they themselves should be very supportive of.)

    Jeebus, how many times does this have to be explained to some people?
     
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    Masks didn't stop any of those deaths either, did they...

    People are being asked to wear them for at least 8 hours a day, not for "a few minutes". People shouldn't even have to wear them for "a few minutes" if they don't want to, since it is THEIR right to make THEIR OWN healthcare decisions.

    Masks do not stop viruses. Their pores are far too large and viruses are far too small.

    Did you know that masks were widely worn during the Spanish flu, an event in which you say that 50 million people died worldwide because of??

    Stop being duped and come back to reality.
     
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    And how many times does my retort to this nonsensical belief need to be explained to some people?

    You are making the claim that a mask can somehow stop a virus from traveling "inside the mask to outside the mask", yet it simultaneously cannot stop a virus from traveling "outside the mask to inside the mask". You are talking about the VERY SAME MASK PORES...

    Do you not realize how silly such a claim is? You are now stuck in paradox and are arguing irrationally.
     
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    Nope, masks do not work. They didn't work during the Spanish Flu and they still don't work now.
     
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    Maybe we should try triple masking when double masking doesn't work... and then quadruple masking when triple masking doesn't work...

    Or maybe, just maybe, we can start realizing that 3.0+ micron mask pores cannot stop a virus of 0.1 micron diameter, that we have immune systems that kill viruses, that a good diet and exercise and vitamins C, D, and zinc help to boost one's immune system, that sunlight is a natural source of vitamin D and helps boost one's immune system, that sunlight is a natural source of UV light and kills viruses, that covid (if caught early) can be treated very effectively with hydroxy and ivermectin, and just be done with this nonsense and start living life pre-2020 style again.
     
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    If they worked so well, then why are there still "spiking infection rates" a great deal of time AFTER mask mandates were implemented?

    According to liberals, masks should've worked like a vaccination works... Mask wearing sheeple (vaccinated folks) should've had immunity to the disease (since mask wearing supposedly stops viruses), so it's just the "moron anti-maskers" (unvaccinated folks) who could've gotten it and spread it around. Once it spreads through that part of the population, then everyone should've had immunity and the disease should've stopped spreading around through the whole population (iow, herd immunity). Whoops. Guess masks don't stop viruses after all..
     
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    All of the religious mask wearers who ended up getting covid anyway.
     
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    Why do leftists always whine about "far right" websites? It literally does not matter where the study was found. What matters is the study itself and how good of a study it was.
     
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    Science says otherwise. The facts don't care about your feelings. Surgeons don't wear masks just because they are fun. Please stop spreading this factless nonsense. It is putting lives in danger.
     
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    Then what you are being jabbed with is NOT a vaccine.

    Flu vaccines grant you immunity to the particular strains of flu that are in the vaccine. They don't grant you immunity to all of the other flu strains that are in the viral landscape.


    Sunlight exposure, Vitamin C, D, and Zinc supplements, healthy diet and exercise, and etc all make you far less likely to become infected with it also.
     
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    I cannot spread a disease that I do not have.
     

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