Your "slave-owner" analogy doesn't work by any stretch of the imagination. Is this your idea of flame-bait?
sure it does. you are looking at the needs and consequences for one of the two parties involved and only one. its funny how all pro choicers are already born lol
That doesn't relate to your flame-bait analogy. Funny how 75% of pro-life leaders are men who can never be pregnant.
Funny how everyone who has an opinion on anything has already been born. Sorry but you need a functioning brain to have an opinion on anything. Those are the facts.
a 1 month old baby doesnt have an opinion. all it has is the drive to survive, same as the "fetus" it was a month back....
You're the one here who wants to make pointless declarations about the born. It's a fact that only born people have opinions on anything.
Well, no....as you've seen from the Anti-Choice Anti-Woman faction it's obvious no brain activity is needed at all for an opinion...
Just admit you have no clue about language usage and I might have more respect for you ! Have you never heard of "Personification" ? Let me give you a few examples: The city that never sleeps ... Justice is Blind Just because figurative language gives human qualities to cities and concepts like justice .. Does not mean that the person actually means these things literally. Obviously when people are fawning over a pregnant woman they are projecting into the future and not thinking about the technically correct scientific term for what is in her belly. Good grief ... could you not have actually thought a bit and figured this out for yourself ?
youre the one making bogus claims. the 1 month old born has no opinion, on anything. it just wants to survive instinctively. no different from 1 month before when it was in the womb... no opinion, just that same survival drive.
You mean like an infant? Infants do not understand the details of abortion, that must mean they are fair game, according to your logic. I don't think any creature, even animals, would want to be torn apart into little pieces. It's not that hard to understand. A late-term fetus does have a functioning brain. The fetus just has not had the opportunity to learn a language yet to convey its wishes, feelings, and desires.
Infants don't understand a lot of things, its called learning . .You are extremely tied up on this late term abortion aren't you even though it makes up less than 1% of all abortions and the majority of them are done for medical reasons. As you well know no abortion is legal,except for medical reasons, after 24 weeks .. so why the fixation, does it get your juices going or something? As yet you and your other pro-life people have not come up with one single piece of reliable evidence to support your stance that conception is the point that an independent sentient person is created. You and your fellow cohorts are like those people who read one thing and decide it must be true, without even bothering to research the alternative view point. I've been involved in debating for a long time and in order to put across a relevant piece of evidence you have to do the research on where that evidence came from and look at the alternative evidence that does not support it. You and your ilk are certainly entitled to have your opinions, yet before you enter into a debate you should learn how to put across your thoughts without resorting to hyperbole and plain lying because in the end all the people you are debating with will do is ridicule you or just plain ignore you .. Corner street preachers never really get listened to.
What about someone who is "born again" do they cease to have an opinion ? or does this persons opinion become null and void ?
yeah i understand. but by your logic everyone that is conceived eventually has an opinion. since not everyone is born with an opinion, they develop one years later.
No I am saying that only born people have opinions. Only the born can be pro-life and only the born can be pro-choice. It is silly to make such an obvious statement as, "Only the born are pro-choice", because it's like, duh, of course only the born are pro-choice or pro-life, only the born can hold an opinion on anything. The unborn have no opinions on anything unless you can prove otherwise.
and only people who have been conceived at some point have opinions also, not all born people have opinions. your argument is extremely flawed
That's because the unborn do not know what the word "abortion" even means. But during the abortion process, they do understand that being ripped apart is horrifically terrifying and painful.
And yet YOU advocate abortions for those with DS. YOU advocate that the DS baby be killed AFTER it's born!!!
Your the resident hypocrite....a left wing radical pro-abort that champions the killing of living human children...even infanticide, right?
You must be addressing Anders....he advocates waiting until the Downs Syndrom baby is born and then killing it.
So why do pregnant women get so excited to see their ultrasounds when they are NOT getting an abortion?!? [video=youtube;VJTXw5jT2fQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJTXw5jT2fQ[/video]