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Evolution is a joke part X

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by DBM aka FDS, Jun 22, 2012.

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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    We are on TEN (10)!!! EVOLUTION IS A JOKE TEN (10)!!!

    This thread is to discuss how evolution is a joke. It’s a religion and how some people have “faith” that what was told to them is actually science. Which evolution is not. Evolution is a faith based religion people believe in and “call” it biology. There is nothing within evolution that points to it being nothing more than faith based religion.

    If you feel differently I will be more than happy to hear your opinion…
     
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    They are COMPLETELY different things. Is gravity biology? I think after you answer that – you’ll stop using them as being equivalent… Comparing gravity to evolution is like comparing potatoes to cowboy boots… it’s retarded and used by the religious to justify their idiotic hypothesis…

    I guess you need to let the world know that it’s not required…. 2. Formulation of an hypothesis to explain the phenomena. In physics, the hypothesis often takes the form of a causal mechanism or a mathematical relation.
    http://teacher.nsrl.rochester.edu:8080/phy_labs/AppendixE/AppendixE.html

    Also, that isn’t an equation for common descent/ancestry now is it? That is an equation for counting how many kids have blonde hair in a population…


    Nope – you don’t know that much about what you’re talking about do you? I will give you this since it explains the scientific method and then explains how it works with germ theory! How’s that for exciting!!! :)

    http://www.biologycorner.com/bio1/scimethod.html

    If you have any questions, I will be more than happy to explain them to you…
     
    DBM aka FDS, Jun 22, 2012
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW!!!

    I am not religious. This should not be about religion. This is about biology and the science behind biology. I feel there isn't any behind evolution - only religious faith. If anyone thinks different - please post! :)
     
    DBM aka FDS, Jun 22, 2012
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    Why would it matter if they were in the same field of science? They are both naturalistic scientific explanations for phenomenon, are they not? Okay, then let's cast aside your bull(*)(*)(*)(*), belittling analogy because there is a clear connection between the two: they were both created through the same rigorous method. If you are claiming that they do not both meet this standard, then the burden of proof is on you to show that.

    No, apparently you just need to learn how to read. You do understand what those words mean? In physics means physics hypotheses, evolution isn't a physics hypothesis so it doesn't even MEET that standard. Next, often means not all the time, which means that not all physics hypotheses NEED a mathematical relation. In fact, the last sentence even mentions that it can take form in a CAUSAL MECHANISM. So, no, obviously you just totally proved me right, a mathematical relation is NOT necessary in a biological sciences field at all.

    You obviously have no idea what evolution IS, even, because you haven't bothered to set up a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing definition for 10 threads. This conversation would have been OVER by now if instead of actually debating random bits about evolution, you actually started somewhere. Instead, what you do is troll and call it a religion because "people don't know enough about it". That doesn't make it a religion, DBM, that makes it like every other subject on the face of the planet. Do you know every single piece of information about a subject? If not, it must be a religion!

    The point was that there isn't a mathematical relationship describing germ theory or plate tectonics. Am I wrong or right? I'm right, I won't even bother to let you avoid answering that. I am right and you know it.
     
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    You are either ignorant of, or ignoring, the massive multi-disciplinary dataset that supports the ToE. Additionally, you have not provided one single piece of empirical data that contradicts the modern synthesis of the ToE. Whats more, the premise of the OP is contrary to the position statements of every relevant scientific academy, association and/or organization. Consequently, the premise of the OP is nothing more than your opinion.

    If you are so certain of your position you should have no trouble finding a PNAS publication with empirical data that supports your claims.
     
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    So is this topic about you equivocating the meaning of the words; faith and call so you can have some fun? Or is it just like you say, you're trying to demonstrate that evolution meets your personal definition of the word religion?
     
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    Good Ole Grasping… What will we be reading today? I can only imagine… Well… I have to be happy that it’s morning and need a good laugh to start the day.

    I already did… several times…


    It isn’t… but if you can’t provide evidence in experimentation, which hasn’t been done, mathematics must be there to pass the scientific method…


    From the person who thought “speciation” was in fact evolution. They were interchangeable words – they meant the same thing… you are going to say that you understand “anything? When you don’t? Want to take a trip down memory lane? That’s a crocodile… Speciation “is” evolution…. Adaptation “is” evolution…

    It’s makes it a religion because people post, like you, a bunch of gibberish without showing anything that proves your point of the argument…

    Lastly, the definition in the website I have provided since day one is not incorrect…


    I gave a link for how germ theory passed the scientific method…

    Sad…. Just sad… that is what your post is… sad…
     
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    Please explain how the hypothesis of evolution passed the scientific method then…
     
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    It meets the definition of the word religion...
     
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    No, you haven't. What you have done is belittle everybody. Show me HOW it has not passed the scientific method. And no, "You show me how it HAS passed the scientific method" is not a rebuttal. The burden of proof is on YOU to refute that it has passed the scientific method.

    Did you or did you not say that it was REQUIRED for a scientific theory to have a mathematical relationship? You did. You are wrong. Enough said.


    Yeah, dude, I'm pretty sure that I've defined evolution using multiple textbook and university sources showing that evolution is defined as the change in the frequency of alleles in a population over time. You just won't accept this definition because it completely puts your argument to rest.

    1) People have told you multiple times that science doesn't set out to prove anything.
    2) DNA evidence is enough to show common ancestry
    3) We have witnessed the change in the frequency of alleles in a population numerous times.

    What definition?


    I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) that it did pass the scientific method, my point was that it didn't have a mathematical relationship involved.
     
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    THAT IS NOT OUR BURDEN. It HAS passed the scientific method and has been considered a theory for quite awhile now. The burden of proof is on you, now, to show that it has NOT.
     
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    Sure, why don't we take a trip down memory lane and show everybody what a huge liar you are?

    "Speciation isn't the definition of evolution, it is a result of it." - Me

    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/199380-evolution-joke-pt-v-26.html#post4333379
     
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    DBM, the person who is claiming that evolution is a religion:

    -"I object to evolution because I believe in Gaia. Just as a Christian may believe in Christ. See, this is why you (outside your own mind) fail... This thread is here because people (and it looks like your one of them) use evolution to support their belief system of declining God. It's either this or that with these type minds..."
     
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    10 threads of the same (*)(*)(*)(*)? really.

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    No it hasn't... if it has - you'd provide a link stating how... I'll be waiting... :)
     
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    That isn't our responsibility to spoon feed away your ignorance. Sorry, but it has passed the scientific method, hence why it has been considered a scientific theory for over 100 years. Saying "Nuh uh!" isn't an argument. If you don't think it has passed the scientific method, then that burden is on YOU to show that.

    Why don't you just go back to worshipping Gaia, you big ol' hypocrite?
     
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    What next post? Unless I recanted and said "speciation is evolution", then you're a liar.
     
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    You don't worship Gaia Sir Grasping... Do I start counting the FAIL's again? It's a long week and per your posts - you keep this up you'll beat your last record and be well over 50!!

    If it has... how did evolution pass the scientific method?
     
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    You found one post out of like 1,000 since you've been here since the first thread... That is why you had to go to the fourth thread... Why don't you post up what you said speciation was in the first thread... in fact why don't you post what you thought the definition of evolution was in the first thread...
     
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    I can't because it isn't available anymore.
     
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    Well, I will refresh your memory. You used speciation as if it was evolution in your sentences. I called you on it and asked you what speciation was, and you said it was evolution - the creation of new species...

    Don't remember? You also posted (linked) TalkOrigins on it... Bring back memories?
     
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    Yeah dude, I totally remember an exact post from like three years ago. I have no reason to believe you, nor does anybody else, unless you have evidence. I have evidence that I did NOT use speciation as a synonym as evolution. If I made a distinction between speciation and evolution, I don't see why i would have previously believed otherwise.

    So, how about we get passed that point and get on to you being a hypocrite a la:

    "I object to evolution because I believe in Gaia. Just as a Christian may believe in Christ. See, this is why you (outside your own mind) fail... This thread is here because people (and it looks like your one of them) use evolution to support their belief system of declining God. It's either this or that with these type minds..."
     
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    They have the option to scroll down Grasping... They can see your "whole FAIL" in it's entirety!!! Then, which I find funny, a post from me saying how you go “Grasping” is what I used to call it, and start using insults after I prove you wrong over and over and over…

    Funny how things never change… :)
     
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    Huhhh… I never stated anything like that Grasping… OH – I believe in Gaia, but that is not the reason I don’t believe in evolution… that is a bunch of crap and you know it is. I don’t believe in evolution because, as I had to do for you, provide why – and that is because I am a biologist… Told you where I went to school and all that…

    Nice FAIL!!!

    One…
     
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