Excess Deaths due to COVID and the Vaccine

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    It's not obvious if you just walk down the street.

    I personally know three people who were injured. I know other people who say they know people who were injured. I know someone who knew a few people who died after getting vaxxed.

    My dentist suddenly got liver cancer and needed a liver transplant. He'd taken about five shots. He's sure the shots had nothing to do with the cancer though. Who knows? Maybe it was just a coincidence.

    As I've already told you a few times, the owner of a health food store where I shop knows a doctor who says he's seen an increase in tumors.

    The pro-vaxxers I know say they don't know anybody who got injured after getting the vaccine.
     
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    MEH!
    I do not believe you. I know nobody out of a considerable pool of people.
    A useless correlation-free, causation-free statement!
    SPAM!
    So it's just the lying antivaxers huh?
     
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    Explain to the "viewers" why you failed to acknowledge this deception.

    Have you signed up for this? Being a layman and constantly making errors isn't a great look. Relying on "things you see around you" that clearly aren't true carries no weight!
     
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    You don't represent the invisible anyone!
    MEH!

    Basically you just cited some reports where nobody died and you have the audacity to claim that this proves these TINY numbers show the vaccines as lethal!

    Deceptive.
     
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    You "missed" this:

    So, very simple: you sign up for it, get the basics and stop doing this cop-out "I'm a layman" crap - that status makes you basically unqualified to post a single thing in the first place - without verification. Your reliance on "what I see around me", posted about 50 times, is clearly hogwash that isn't true.
     
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    Why when it is not from reliable sources?
     
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    Here's something relevant I just came across.

    The Watson et al. “modeling study”: did “COVID vaccinations” really prevent 14 million deaths?
    https://doctors4covidethics.org/the...accinations-really-prevent-14-million-deaths/
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    The hypothesis that the COVID “vaccinations” prevented 14 million “COVID deaths” and thus significantly mitigated the severity of the “pandemic” is based on unrealistic figures and demonstrably false calculations. To date, the experimental “vaccines”, for which an integration into the human genome cannot be safely ruled out [32,33] and must even be considered likely [34], have not been able to prove a relevant benefit, neither in the clinical studies before their approval nor afterwards. Real world evidence shows that the “COVID vaccination” is associated with a negative effect overall and positively correlates with an increase in morbidity and mortality associated with SARS-CoV-2 infection, as well as in all-cause mortality. Overall, the “modeling study” by Watson et al. must be considered an unscientific and dishonest attempt to falsely cast the “vaccines” in a positive light. The serious conflicts of interest surrounding the study undermine not only the credibility of the publication itself, but also that of the medical journal which published it.
     
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    These two doctors maintain that they show that the European commission deliberately tried to mislead the public.

    The EU Commission can see no excess mortality due to the COVID-19 vaccines
    https://doctors4covidethics.org/the...xcess-mortality-due-to-the-covid-19-vaccines/
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    The evidence of harm and death due to the COVID-19 vaccines, which emerged within mere days of their roll-out, has since become utterly obvious and devastating. EMA’s failure to “detect a safety signal” constitutes a safety signal all unto itself. This signal has been detected by the public, which is turning its back on the vaccines and, by extension, on Ms. Kyriakides and Europe’s entire criminally negligent administration.

    The toxicity of the gene-based vaccines was understood and predicted even before they were introduced, and the anticipated central mechanism of such toxicity has since been abundantly confirmed. This is discussed in more detail in our recent book “mRNA Vaccine Toxicity” [45], which can be downloaded and read for free. The book spells out that the grave harm observed with the COVID-19 vaccines must be expected with future gene-based vaccines against other infectious diseases also. We hope that you will spread this message and share it with your friends and family.
     
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    And again the "doctors 4 Covid Ethics" batshit disinformation website.

    So "something relevant" and "two doctors" maintain something. Both doctors are known cranks one even has his own wiki page exposing his batshittery.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sucharit_Bhakdi

    A catalog of utter failure!
     
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    Discussed and debunked. Spike occurred before rollout!
     
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    Why should anyone bother when you ignore every damn reply!
     
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    What total crap from "disinformation central".

    Why don't you isolate the bit you think proves the lying tagline! It's just vague supposition and when it damn well suits you, a mainstream media source! Meh!
     
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    To do what? Deny climate change? Not a great start.
     
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    That's still up in the air. Address what he says about the covid vaccine.
     
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    Nope! Do you believe every conspiracy theory on the planet?* The whole world in one way or another is involved with this endless conveyor-belt of batshit conspiracies.
    Well this turd of a "scientist" starts off by saying "there is no pandemic". Which piece of garbage did you find compelling enough to need an explanation for?


    *Flat Earth excluded
     
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    There are people who think the people who got sick just had the regular seasonal flu and the people that were dying were mainly being killed with remdesivir in the hospitals. At the hospital where I give English classes my students had to cancel all their classes for several weeks because of all the covid patients. At that particular hospital most of the patients were elderly.

    This does kind of sound like things were different from the regular seasonal flu. I would bet he was mistaken about that. What do you think about what he says about excess deaths?
     
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    I'm also wondering about what this doctor says.

    Dr. Ardis – Finds Snake Venom in Glyphosate (Roundup) – Was Covid Really a Virus
    https://rumble.com/v6ct3jm-dr.-ardi...phosate-roundup-was-covid-really-a-virus.html

    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=dr. ardis snake venom


    I can't opine on this. it's too technical for a layman.


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    Here's something else to think about.

    COVID "virus" has not been recognized nor identified, ever.
    https://rumble.com/vdtb5f-covid-virus-has-not-been-recognized-nor-identified-ever..html
     
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    Uhuh. Such people are imbeciles - try not to listen to what they say.
    Very interesting - everyone is captivated by this.
    And?
    Ya think?
    Is that what you call it? "Mistaken"? That's not a very accurate word to describe a moronic claim from a so-called guy with "credentials"!
    Asked and answered about 500 times.

    As for your clown doctor above saying the sars2 virus wasn't a virus - you need to stop listening to every piece of daft conspiracy guff. You CAN offer an opinion on it! You simply say, "it sounds like a crock of crap" - layman or not, you'd be correct.
     
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    Ridiculing is not debunking.


    This video isn't very long.

    COBRA-19 Virus or Venom - And it may be in your tap water
    https://rumble.com/v10qhkb-cobra-19-virus-or-venom-and-it-may-be-in-your-tap-water.html


    I really haven't formed a firm opinion on all of this. The poison-in-the-water theory doesn't sound all that implausible.
     
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    No need to debunk the ridiculous. You really need to be able to identify when that is the case.
    God, that's almost as bad as your flatulence-in-the-fog claim.
    Ok, so this isn't debunking that claim or your fence-sitting opinion:
    [​IMG]
     
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    More info...

    Red Alert Issued as Excess Deaths Still Skyrocketing in Covid-Vaxxed Children
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/red-a...hs-skyrocketing-covid-vaxxed-children/5876292
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    Dowd’s data shows that excess deaths for children aged one to fourteen have surged higher each year since the Covid mRNA “vaccines” were rolled out in 2021.

    According to Dowd, excess deaths for children in this age group spiked by a staggering 22% in 2023 – the last full year of data.

    Dowd notes that this trend didn’t start until “the magic juice started to be issued to children later in 2021.”

    The data shows that deaths were actually lower than expected in 2020 but started surging in 2021.

    According to Dowd’s findings, each year’s data shows:

    • 2020: 9 percent fewer deaths than expected
    • 2021: 7 percent fewer deaths than expected
    • 2022: 16 percent MORE deaths than expected
    • 2023: 22 percent MORE deaths than expected
    As Down notes, while the “vaccines” were rolled out for public use in early 2021, they were authorized for children later in the year.
     

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