Exclusive: Liz Cheney, January 6 Committee Suppressed Exonerating Evidence Of................

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  1. jcarlilesiu

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    Actually, yes. The national guard is commanded by the governor, not federal government.

    Yes.

    Correct.
     
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    Cool, now I’ll ask a 5th time. Prove it and tell me who the governor of DC is
     
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    From AP


    There is no evidence that Trump actually signed any order requesting 10,000 Guard troops, let alone 20,000, for Jan. 6. Reached for comment, a spokesperson for the Department of Defense provided a timeline of the agency’s involvement in preparing for and responding to the attack on the Capitol. The timeline shows no such order, and notes only that on Jan. 3, the president concurred with activating the D.C. National Guard to support law enforcement at the behest of Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser.

    National Guard troops were already activated and deployed to checkpoints around Washington before the violence began. When the rioting started, Bowser requested more Guard help, on behalf of the Capitol Police. That request was made to Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy, who then went to Miller, who approved it.
     
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    As it is now, I say 911. Ask me again in 20 years, it will depend on how much more bullshit we let the govt get away with to 'fix' the problem it caused.

    ...here's to hoping we're both still around in 20 years to find out :beer:
     
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  5. jcarlilesiu

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    Duties and administrative organization
    National Guard units can be mobilized for federal active duty to supplement regular armed forces during times of war or national emergency declared by Congress,[27] the President[27] or the Secretary of Defense.[28] They can also be activated for service in their respective states upon declaration of a state of emergency by the governor of the state or territory where they serve, or in the case of Washington, D.C., by the Commanding General. Unlike U.S. Army Reserve members, National Guard members cannot be mobilized individually, except through voluntary transfers and Temporary Duty Assignments (TDY). The types of activation are as follows:[29]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_(United_States)

    Also to note, the federal government is disallowed from activating the National Guard for domestic law enforcement unless the Insurrection Act is invoked.
     
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    The lefty media are not reporting much on this. Surprise surprise.
     
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    No surprise here, but you haven't a clue as to how easily the masses of humans are deceived by propagandists. It is easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him how he has been fooled.
     
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    My heart aches for all the innocent US citizens sent to prison by their tyrannical government.
     
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    You mean the phoney claim the judge just tossed.
    Once again quote from the transcript of the phone, in full context, where Trump demanded EXTRA votes.
     
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    Only if the liberal press gets to fallaciously record it as the Jan 6 committee is trying.



    Yes he wanted them around the Capital in the streets protesting peacefully. No one has ever denied that.

    ...

    If you are going to quote me then QUOTE ME. Copy and paste it.
     
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    BUT read the transcripts it was what they expected because it happened regularly and having additional troops when such large and opposition crowds were expected was a normal course of action. The fact remains the Dems in charge at the Capital and the Streets failed to take those urgings and take their responsibilities seriously and the result was a crowd that got to large for the security offering to weak a perimeter and a few got through and into the Capital.
     
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    There:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...sinate-a-rival.615893/page-25#post-1074612615

    So your defense of Trump is that he can't be prosecuted because he's insane.

    Even if Trump commits crimes to stay in power, since he believes he really won the election, he should get a pass.

    I've got news for you, it doesn't work that way in this country.
     
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    Raffensperger repeatedly tells Trump that there was no significant fraud in the recount and that he lost.

    Trump has no evidence to the contrary and is pressuring Raffensperger by telling him that many people are unhappy with him.

    He's asking him to FIND votes, not recount them, to find the exact number of votes needed for him to win.

    Find votes that DON'T EXIST....

    But considering that your position is Trump's insanity is a valid defense, I'm not surprised that you're still misrepresenting the truth.
     
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    Many believe that he actually did win the election. With so many hundreds of thousands of non-secure unverified mail in ballots, it's nearly impossible to "prove" fraud. But the far left already knew that, and didn't give a **** about it.
     
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    The Earth is flat.

    I can't prove it, but I believe it.
     
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    How do you prove fraud when there is no security trail or verification of these hundreds of thousands of mail in ballots? Nice try at deflection. Not going to work.
     
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    If you can't prove it, there's no fraud.

    Do you understand what I've just written?

    59 judges + all the SCOTUS judges think like me.

    What were the results of the audits in Arizona, Georgia and Michigan?

    Biden is the legitimate POTUS and Trump is a criminal spreading conspiracy theories.
     
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    Where do I start?

    Nearly all of the court cases cited a lack of jurisdiction, they were not triers of fact. But you knew that already, right?

    The audit in Georgia (of which I'm familiar) was not an audit at all. It merely verified the count from the machines. 27 votes in, and verified 27 votes out. There was no verification of signatures, matches against voter rolls, or deceased voters, etc. But you knew that already, right?

    Biden is a dementia ridden old man who has illegally grifted off the government and taken foreign money for years. And there is still serious doubt as to his legitimacy as the winner of the 2020 election. So, he received more votes than President Obama? Sure he did.
     
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    Maybe bring tangible evidence that Trump won in 2020.

    MAGA have been promising it for 4 years.

    False.

    In several of them, Trump's lawyers appeared in court and presented no tangible evidence of voter fraud.

    Some were disbarred for it.

    And then you forget the famous case presented at SCOTUS.... where Trump supposedly released the Kraken....

    You can't imagine how indifferent I am to your opinion of Biden.

    It's been 16 years since voters overwhelmingly voted for a liberal for POTUS.

    Do you think you're improving your chances by nominating a criminal like Trump?
     
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    Wasn’t Trump’s rally.
     
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    In the Vast Majority (not even close to 59 like you falsely asserted) they were not the trier of facts to determine fraud, they said they didn't have jurisdiction. You keep pushing the big far left lie. Why do you continue to do that?

    And your continuing to lie about these facts is what I expect from someone that supports a criminal slug like Biden.
     
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    What you say is false and I challenge you to prove it.

    In the meantime:

    Nearly all the suits were dismissed or dropped due to lack of evidence or lack of standing,[3] including 30 lawsuits that were dismissed by the judge after a hearing on the merits.[4] Among the judges who dismissed the lawsuits were some appointed by Trump himself.[5] Judges, lawyers, and other observers described the suits as "frivolous"[6] and "without merit".[7][8] In one instance, the Trump campaign and other groups seeking his reelection collectively lost multiple cases in six states on a single day.[9] Only one ruling was initially in Trump's favor: the timing within which first-time Pennsylvania voters must provide proper identification if they wanted to "cure" their ballots. This ruling affected very few votes,[10] and it was later overturned by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.[11]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-...presidential_election#cite_note-liptak-dec8-3

    Because you're another MAGA who lives in a parallel world and if you're never confronted with reality your gonna spreads your lies non-stop.
     
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    As I said, and you just helped me prove, the vast majority were dismissed due to lack of standing. Thanks for playing, and continue with the BIG LIE if it keeps you warm at night. BTW, any comment on the Georgia "audit" you seem to love so much?
     

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