Explain the Focus on AR-15s and Mass Shootings

Ahh..I see the problem. You're confused. You somehow, despite my not expressing such, think I'm FOR targeting ARs. Ummm...I'm not. Oopsie! Carry on

 

6 of the last 20 mass shootings involved identified AR rifles. The rest involved pistols, shotguns or other types of rifles.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/

The AR is just the boogeyman.

 

well as a professional in the field, they are wonderful home defense weapons-and for shopkeepers facing looters, maybe the best possible firearms. Claiming mass shootings is one of their uses is pretty biased bullshit given they aren't used all that much in them despite the best efforts of people who constantly claim so. As to sporting they dominate the oldest shooting event in the USA-the national service rifle championships and they dominate 3G events. In 9mm they are also the top choice for the PCC division of USPSA

for the first 50 years they were sold, there was no incidents of Mass shootings. That didn't happen until leftwing liars like Josh Sugarmann started publicly claiming they were good for that. want to blame someone-=don't blame the NRA or lawful gun owners, blame anti gun liars

 

another completely non responsive comment that is both inaccurate and scurrilous

 

I will take yes for 2000, Ken

 

The question raised in the OP was why the ARs receive so much focus. Someone pointed out that since more people die from falling from ladders than by ARs...that perhaps the focus was misguided. You wanted nefarious means...not accidental means. I provided the nefarious means for a better comparison...and you still pee yourself over the correlation. Soooooooo

 

Nope. Wrong again. I never asked for nefarious means. I only pointed out how asinine it is to compare accidents to willful acts. YOU somehow read more into it....that's on you. Said another way....you're arguing against a position I don't hold. Let me say it yet another way so it can hopefully sink into your brain....I'M AGAINST ANY...ANY...ANY gun bans of ANY type of gun. Is that f'ing clear enough for you?

 

rather than attack another pro gun poster whose credentials are well known to some of us-perhaps you might explain why the anti gun left constantly lies about the AR 15

 

Thats a great point. The first record of an AR15 being used in a mass killing was 2007...25 years after the database began tracking mass shootings and a full 46 years after its public introduction into the private sales market.

 

IIRC the first publicized mass shooting involving a semi auto carbine was sort of Charles whitman's rampage on the Texas tower but he killed with a bolt action scoped rifle, he had the MI carbine for backup IIRC

 

HE attacked me. How about you attack the correct person?

I'd be happy to comment. Which specific lies are you referring to?

 

You did not offer a better example. There is no legitimate reason to compare accidents to willful acts. It's beyond asinine to do such.
And it wasn't a "misunderstanding" on your part. You reacted emotionally to what you THOUGHT was being posted rather than take the time to read what was ACTUALLY being posted. That's lazy
This thread isn't about us so move on

 

Did you perceive my comment as an attack? Please let me know so i will make sure I do my best to not hurt your feelings.

 

'reacted emotionally'

Hide the mirrors, Janet!!!

 

No I didn't. I was using HIS word.

 

Thats not the question I asked.

maybe decaf......

 

1) the bullshit that the rounds from the AR 15 are devastating compared to "regular bullets"

2) that the weapon is the weapon of choice of mass shooters

3) that thousands of kids are killed with them

4) that they can shoot hundreds of rounds in a minute

5) anything they can do, another weapon (not yet on the has to be banned list) can do better

6) they cannot be used for hunting

7) they are too powerful for home defense

this is a sampling of the oozing bovine excrement I have seen on this board in the last month

 

I haven't seen any of those comments. I can't speak to why people make those false claims. Maybe desperation? Ignorance?

 

This is a serious subject that needs to be dealt with the point about pistols vs long guns is irrelevent. I gave it the respect it deserved.
Learn to interpret scarcasim

 

Here are a few you can start with

 

The issue is that most of these events are done with these types of weapons. That is all most people will see.

 

In the 636 mass shootings in 2022, 8 involved AR15s.
Not sure how you get "most" from that.

 

I am speaking of school shootings.

The reason gang violence isn’t really that worried about is because they are killing themselves, protecting their children and families is what most people care about.

 

I agree with most of what you've just written.

By "most", I mean that I don't think that ALL Democrats want to ban ALL guns but that one of the goals of the Democratic Party is the incremental disarmament of everyone except police, military and the bodyguards employed by politicians and the very rich.

You're also right about the "incremental" disarmament of Americans.
That's why people who fear and hate all guns are starting with a ban on "assault weapons"; a vague classification of firearms used least in homicides. So, when this ban doesn't work, they'll want to ban more guns and so forth.

Meanwhile, the deadliest "assault weapon" per incident was not a firearm at all but one dollar's worth of gasoline and some plastic.(1)
The killer in NYC only wanted to kill his ex-girlfriend but, because he couldn't get a gun, he made a crude WMD that killed not only the ex-girlfriend but 86 other people.

One of my concerns is that if and when guns become harder to get, determined mass killers will simply turn to easily made, crude WMDs that kill more people than any firearm such as Molotov cocktails, home made bombs, Anthrax and similar Bio - Chem compounds, large vehicles and the list goes on.

Thanks,


(1). "Happy Land fire"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

EXCERPT "González went to an Amoco gas station, then returned to the establishment with a plastic container with $1 worth of gasoline. He spread the fuel at the base of a staircase, the only access into the club, and then ignited the gasoline.

Eighty-seven people died in the resulting fire."CONTINUED

 

Simple. They want to end private gun ownership. They take it a step at a time.