Explain the Focus on AR-15s and Mass Shootings

I have no use for an AR or M2 but I do know that there is a pretty large shooting competition element that involve these guns. My favorite competition is sporting clays but it uses shotguns instead of rifles.

They could be considered "cool" but that is a question for them, not me. Since these are military weapons designed for anti personnel use, I think the answer may be obvious.

 

I show >330 school shootings since 1999.
Please demonstrate that 165 or more of these involved an AR.
Cite your sources.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(2000–present)

 

Really, you consider "Oh, well if that is true nevermind it makes mass killings OK." giving it the respect it deserves?

 

And if we were to somehow, magically, get rid of these types of weapons, then most of these events will be done with other types of weapons, and there will be calls to restrict/ban them. The inevitable result is just the restriction/banning of weapons. These types of events are not weapon driven, and they will not be remedied by restricting/banning the weapon.

 

They shoot as fast as every other semi-auto firearm
The damage done by the 5.56x45 round, compared to just about every other center-fire rifle round, is unremarkable.

Yes. A handgun.

Given the 1994 AWB did nothing to reduce availability of new or existing 'assault weapons' this increase has noting to do with the expiration of the ban.

 

The authoritarian Left is politically aligned with the criminal Left that operates, illegally armed, in our violent Blue Cities, largely unhindered by law enforcement. These criminal gangs commit almost ALL of the violent gun killings in our nation. If you take their contribution out of our stats, we have the same gun violence rates as the rest of the First World, but, the same Left that is gleefully rejoicing over this Soros Puke fixing the 2024 election by abusing his office, also wants the right disarmed. That's the reason for the focus you ask about in the topic title.

WE ARE BECOMING AWARE OF JUST HOW VIOLENT THE GENDER DYSPHORIC CAN BE.

 

The AR15 is a wannabe rifle for wannabe tough guys immersed in psychotic mindsets where they may be called upon at any moment to defend their paranoid fantasies.

 

You realize schools are gun free zones and that's why none of the many adults there standing in loco parentis are armed in most cases?
Even in states where its allowed there are so many hoops and red tape to jump through it chills the expression of the right.

 

You think its not a rifle now? Do explain. What definition of rifle are you using?

 

Sure: Defense of homestead.
https://www.ammoland.com/2019/02/ho...wner-uses-ak47-in-self-defense/#axzz7xZQZ0VJX
Additional: Defense of homeland
Further: Defense of others.
Still further: Defense of property (check your state's laws, its legal where I am it may not be where you are).

Why are they favored? They're set up to be ergonomic, the controls are intuitive, disassembly is standard, there are dozens and dozens of ubiquitous parts manufacturers for standard and literally any form of aftermarket part you could think of allowing you to customize it to your needs, tastes, etc.
They've been the most popular arm for so long that popularity maintains a momentum all its own. All the training assumes AR ergos, unless you go to a more expensive specific class. Etc.

Consider why the baseball bat is the standard for most otherwise unarmed americans stereotypically and you'll find the same reasons: Its sufficient for the task, designed to be ergonomic and easy to use, and its a very simple very common thing found ubiquitously in American homes nationwide..

 

A heinous deliberate act, which you made them vulnerable to by forcing them to be disarmed

 

Brother, we fight hard to keep the zip .22 legal too, and no one and I mean NO ONE wants to shoot that piece of ****.

We fight for our rights because if we do not, you would take them away. If we allow you to take a little bit, as a little treat for you, a compromise, you forget we did that immediately and demand we compromise.
We. Have. Already. Compromised. Enough. In fact, we're taking it back now since you're so ****ing ungrateful.

Here's a nice meme, since that seems to be the intellectual level of this discussion.

 

Sounds like your friends are incredibly basic little normies in their taste in firearms.

Lemme guess, at least 1 of them also has a single stack 1911 because "muh stopin powah" and "two world wars" right?

 

Me? Hmmmm…
Ya must have missed this on page 3…ouch

Yet another person who doesn’t think clearly.

 

Let me guess you just want "reasonable restrictions" on ownership right? spare me.

 

That's not a crime.

 

It is pretty cringe though. If you're going to pose with something, it better be something more than a basic bitch AR.

 

Nope. I’ve stated numerous times on this forum that I want NO new gun laws implemented that would restrict in any way law abiding citizens from their 2A rights.
Hahahahaha…and yet again you are wrong. You really need to stop assuming so much. It’s a bad look for you.

 

The AR 15 has become a universal symbol and it is recognizable that is why it is singled out. The argument that it has killed fewer people in mass shootings is a red herring. That does not make it a "reasonable gun.

I will make a proposal. If I had divine power I would suggest that people could keep AR 15s and would be left alone if all guns common in mass shootings were controlled.

 

And you're not for repeal of existing law ergo you're a grabber. Have a good time.

You're the one kvetching about a person pointing out accidental deaths on a thing not designed to kill people kills more people yearly than a thing explicitly designed to kill people as effectively as possible.

 

Hahahaha…I just told you I don’t want any guns banned yet I’m a “grabber”? Sorry I didn’t think of every scenario under the sun. Yes, I’m for repealing existing gun restriction laws.
Wait…so my pointing out a simple fact that it’s asinine to compare accidents to willful acts somehow makes me a “grabber”? Hahaha wow…that is some f’d up logic.

 

If you want to destroy a nation , what better way than to promote chaos?

The people who make the rules and run the game right now don't think the rules apply to them- so there are no rules. When we hold them accountable- really accountable- that will change.

 

I'd say it was your attitude and the fact that you find asinine a relevant comparison that had me assume you're an anti.

You think its irrelevant that an item not intended to cause deaths causes more deaths than an item explicitly designed to cause deaths as effectively as possible?
You find that asinine?

 

Sigh....holy crap. What I find asinine is COMPARING accidents to willful acts. I don't know how to be any clearer. You do know an accident and a willful act are two VERY different things, right?

What I also find amazing is you saw my post in another thread arguing against Golem's claim that no other gun can cause as much damage as an AR-15 yet you still try to argue I'm a gun grabber. I literally was arguing AGAINST an actual gun grabber but someone I'm a gun grabber too. F'ing hell. That kind of logic in mind boggling to me

 

Again: You don't find it relevant that an item intended to cause death causes less death than a simple tool used as a platform to elevate your height?
That's a perfectly relevant fact to point out. The fact that its an ACCIDENT is part of what makes it ****ing relevant.

As stated: I assumed, see description above. I'm not still calling you that. You going to bitch some more?