Explosions greet new 'unity' government at key Yemen port

New Unity Government coming in..sounds good so far. Why would anyone want to shoot at a Unity Government. They went on to say it was believed it was 'the Iran backed Houthi'

Hmmmm Ok. This is making more sense. The Houthi come from the people living in North Yemen until the Brits intruded on them due to colonisation. So they appear to be talking about a Unity Government only for South Yemen. Lets look at what sort of a Government this is.

I haven't been keeping up with this but the last Internationally recognised Government I know they had was one organised by the Sauds, UAE etc in which the people were allowed to vote for only one person as President with the promise that after a period of time he would step down. When he refused to step down the previous President who the Sauds had deposed got together with the Houthis, bringing a good bit of the Yemen army and fireworks began.

I am pretty sure I read recently that the South were wanting to seperate so possibly this is those from outside, Sauds etc, trying to get them to take over the North - an area which had been ruled by the Zaidis for over a thousand years before the Brit intrusian.

It is hardly unexpected then, that given that this lot are joining up against them, that they would attack the plane. Bye the way Iran advised against taking Sanaa. President Saleh though insisted they did. Originally the protests in Yemen came from three places. Saudi Arabi had deported all its Al Qaeda to Yemen and the US were bombing and droning them and as usual most of the people being killed were just ordinary people so they were pretty cross with the government allowing it. (Interestingly even though Saleh asked, the US refused to bomb the Houthis, saying there was no intelligence that they were working with Iran.) Then there was a genuine Arab Spring in Yemen. One of the things which brought the Zaidis and the Sunni Muslims together was that working with the Sauds, Saleh, himself originating from the Zaidis, was wanting to turn them into Wallabhi's to suit the Sauds and guess what, like most Muslims given the choice, they did not fancy that, so a lot of Sunni Muslims certainly for the first few years were fighting with the Houthis. Then of course the final thing which got revolution going was to get a President elected by outsiders who did not leave office when had been promised. This was the Internationally Recognised Government of Yemen. Yemen apparently had one of the strongest pro Democracy Arab Spring protests but, presumably due to Politics, we did not get to hear about it.

So, is this another prelude to getting people interested in a war with Iran, who knows but if you are bringing in people whose job is going to be to get rid of you do not be surprised if they try to stop you getting in.

 

Stuff the Houthis, an utter shower if there ever were some! And don't you dare try to lay their extremism on we Brits. Here's all you need to know about them in their motto;

Allah is Greater, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jews, Victory to Islam

But here's some more if you need it;

Houthi movement - Wikipedia

 

So we have our Ulster Proddy again showing his totaly lack of knowledege and trying to stop the thread before it gets started. I will need to report this thread if it continues like you have started. Take your anti anxiety tablets and learn to calm down so that you can reply with some intelligence rather than out of control emotion as you have here.

 

Yes, you do have your Ulster Proddy here once more to bring you enlightenment as my people are famous for (and teach you how to spell?). How am I trying to stop this thread precisely? What are you going to report me for exactly? Disagreeing with you? Believe me pal I am calm if somewhat amused by you and the intelligence of my replies is evident to all.

 

Lots of things. I have unlike yourself studied this situation though as I said not kept up with recent things. I do though have substantial knowledge of it and took time to write the OP. You totally ignored it and instead just came up with abuse.

British people know exactly what your people are famous and to be frank how you write on this forum typifies that so be proud of yourself. If the best you can offer are threats and being a spelling Nazi then you have nothing to offer except your abuse. In reality you are wrong about the issue being that I am an ignorant person who has no ability to spell. I do have a problem with arthritis in my hands which is usually the problem but enjoy destroying the thread and having a go at me as you did from the beginning.

 

Explosions greet new 'unity' government at key Yemen port

It couldn't have happened to a better country

 

Except if you check out the OP you will find it is not a Unity Government but the factions of one side who have come together to destroy the other, led by the Houthis, who obviously would be the first suspect. They have though denied it - or they had last night.

It looks like a Saudi Unity Government. They have Hadi back from hiding in KSA. He is apparently the Internationally accepted President. He got to power because the GCC led by the Saud's decided the people could vote for him, and only him as President in 2012 I think. This was supposed to have been for only two years while he would sort the countries problems out and there would be proper elections. Two years later and nothing had been resolved so civil war broke out and he had to run to KSA. Now he is back, head of the supposed 'Unity Government.

Yemen was strong on protests for 'The Arab Spring' something which the Sauds don't want as they see democracy among neighbours as being threatening to them.

 

Fine. I don't care about Yemen. Sorry.

 

OK no need to come into the thread then. However it is the US and the UK who are suppliing the weapons and training to the Sauds as well as other help so that they can continue in what has been described by the UN for over two years as the worst humanitarian situation in the world. Our newspapers of course do not keep us informed but we, as democracies, bare a responsibility for this.

 

The Houthis are blaming the bombing on in fighting among the supposed 'unity' people. It appears there was a second bomb near the Presidential Palace.

Yemen - latest news, breaking stories and comment - The Independent

Confirmation here that this is just a Saudi puppet Government.

https://southfront.org/all-eyes-on-...ility-to-protect-its-yemen-puppet-government/

 

Obama and Trump both sold weapons to Saudi Arabia. I don't know why we need thier money.

America is already rich.

 

Who cares if it is internationally recognised. If you have a monopoly over the use of force in a given territory what the international community thinks means **** all.

 

My point was the 'irony' of a supposed 'International Community' which is supposed to value 'rights' and 'Democracy' - because International Community is what is led by the US, supporting a man who was chosen by an outside country to rule another country and who did not keep to the deal on which the people chose to accept this. Even by this strange action of the 'International Community' this man's time was up in 2014. It shows the hypocracy of the 'International Community'. By the 'International Community' accepting this, they provide a situation in which it is considered morally acceptable for aggression against the people who do not accept a foreign appointed ruler governing them. You are right that the International community';s acceptance has nothing to do with whether it is lawful or not. In this instance it is being used as an excuse for some of the richest countries in the world to destroy one of the very poorest. A situation which has been the worst humanitarian disaster in the world for several years now and which we, the West, being democracies and allowing our Governments to support the Saud's in this bare strong responsibility for the deaths and destruction going on in that country.

If you believe that it is perfectly alright for anyone to do this to anyone else however, then simply you believe in Might is Right, which in a world with the weapons we have, not forgetting their effect on the environment and the reality that we have already seen that playing 'might is right' results in the death of millions upon millions of human beings, you do not understand that for any hope of peace and the survival of human beings some agreement about law is necessary and in this environment 'Might is Right' which is another way of saying the richest rule, will destroy our planet and with that humanity.

 

Might isn't right, but it is necessary to enact the right; which is why we have all these institutions in the first place - to get might onto the side of right.

And another thing - I do not deny that Western involvement in Yemen is a bad idea. It's not up to us to police the world.

 

Far too nebulous a statement. Do you believe that poor people are always wrong? That they deserve no rights? I am not expecting you to say yes, but that is basically what that statement says. Enforcable law can create a situation where most people would find it not in their interests to go on a territorial initiative as the Sauds and UAE supported by the US and UK are up to in Yemen. That is why the UN was set up having noticed how Might is Right led to world wars and the killing of millions and millions. We do need the UN to have an overhaul, to become more democratic and to have some clout. The richest are again harming the poorest and they are demanding the end of the UN.

It is not so much policing the world. It is supporting other countries attacking one of the poorest country in the world for their own gain. A people who genuinely wanted Democracy. Something which KSA has shown herself to be determined to stop and here she is supported by the US who claim to be fighting wars to bring Democracy.

 

I am demanding the end of the UN also.

Either cop a set of balls and enforce your edicts or the body will have no relevance.

I don't think the Houthis are particularly good either. Either way it's none of my business, I live 5000km from Yemen.

 

That does not surprise me. You are forgetting their are opinion makers.

It needs to change so that it is made more democratic and can have some clout. After WW2 there definatetely was a desire to fulfil our potential as a more evolved and humanitarian being - though of course those with the power, put themseves in charge by having a veto. The last twenty years has seen the move away from working using our higher powers and towards convincing people that humans basically are the lowest they can be. Hence get rid of the UN and Might is Right which is what is going on now.

I am quite sure they are as bad as everyone else while fighting. That is no reason for a foreign country to attack Yemen in order to take it over. One of the main complaints of the Houthi was shared by many of the Sunni and that was that they were against the Wahhabism which Saleh was trying to put in to please his owners the Sauds. Because of this the Houthi, certainly when I was last keeping tabs on them were both sunni and Zaydi. It was the Houthi who were fighting ISIS and Al Qaeda in Yemen while they were fighting with the Sauds, UAE, US, Britain.....and it most certainly is your business if you are providing weapons for the genocide of one of the poorest people in the world.

Yemen | genocidewatch

 

Although this was recorded 3 months ago, it is as relevent today. Check out the title 'Yemen a Crises made in America'. They are talking about people dying because the US is making money and has no conscience at all about its weapons being used to kill civilians. It talks about how the US, Saudi Arabia and KSA have either reduced or stopped giving aid to the UN for the civilians living in Houthi held territory and how most of the people who die of starvation, die at home so they are not counted. In addition to this the US has been backing KSA putting a blocade on food and other essential items like fuel from being able to get in to feed and help civilians in Houthi held areas. Hospitals in Houthi held areas have no fuel so they cannot use the kind of equiment we take for granted so children are dying because if they turn their attention for one minute from the child and the equipment which is keeping them alive goes out due to lack of electricity, that child dies. This is the worst story of torture and inhumanity I have heard in my life. The people doing this and that includes the American's, Trumps team are beneath contempt and ought to be brought to the ICC. This is Trump showing what kind of a dictator he would have been had he been able to do the coup he tried so hard to manage. This is equal to the worst inhumanity ever done. This is the future some people want everywhere as they enjoy Might is Right and to hell with the UN. This is what the UN was created to stop.

 

The Yemen crisis was made in Yemen by the Houthis and their Iranian puppet masters. Don't blame the Yemen government and their US and Saudi backers for pursuing the war against the Houthis as the Houthis pursued it against them, it's just the Houthis are the losing side.

 

Russia and China do not ?
Every one want $ or black oil .

 

I agree.

 

Where is Yemen?

 

Good news - and a step towards peace in the region.

 

Can you Blame them ? The US has been dealing death to Yemen - and the people of Yemen - the second war where we were allied with Al Qaeda in the region .. under investigation by the ICC for complicity in War Crimes - Crimes against Humanity - we are Padawan.

Another Legacy Obama war - again we are allied with radical Islamist extremists - and horrible crimes .. Syria being 10 x worse .. again allied with Saudi Inspired radical Islamist Extremists Al Qaeda/ISIS - which are one in the same .. Al Nusra - Islamic Front -

Allied with them we were Padawan - through the worst atrocity of this decade - 500,000 dead - refugee crisis ..

Imagine you were living in a large city - one day woke up in a strict Sharia Nightmare - dark age Style - rape - forced marriage - genocide - daily executions - going on all around you .. You are now living in a new State .. an "Islamic State" which covered most of Syria by 2013 - and held until Russia entered the war and started taking back territory in 2016

2 years you have lived under the rule of ISIS -- if you managed not to escape - In this new state that Obama created .. and is still allied with throughout 2015 ..

Disgusting ..

 

Leave the location as a google map exercise for you .. but - Yemen is the place where Obama was complicit in War Crimes - and Crimes against Humanity last decade.... being allied with Al Qaeda and Brother El Saud - both being cut from the same cloth .. as they reigned down hell on the people of Yemen.