F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

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    I'm not surprised one bit . Your more a Putin lover.
     
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    Well who was their other choice? A Democrat?
     
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    By Russian propoganda you mean Hillary's emails? That was fact not propoganda unlike the golden shower fake dossier
     
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    Suddenly all this stuff matters to Democrats. Seems like just the other day they were crying in mass over a private sex life remaining private
     
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    So he have something is common with Trump in your opinion?
     
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    Really, did he put sanctions on Russia like president Trump?
     
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    right now there are triple the number of female democrats in the senate than there are women in the gop and is sure to grow. Women vote democratic because the right fights against them, not with them..when obama passed the Ledbetter bill only republicans voted against women getting paid fairly. The gop wants to take away women’s reprodfreedom. The democrats fight for daycare .not the gop, they’d rather give tax cuts to the rich Remember the million plus women marching all over the country and the world after trump was elected? Did you think they were republicans?
    What promises didn’t democrats keep? What promises have republicans offered women?
    I find it so interesting how you so fiercely defend Trump and his despicable behavior. It is so amazing to me that a man still believes that women allowed the groping. I guess the me too movement didn’t educate you at all...Once again you are blaming the women. Do you think women really like to be grabbed by their genitals? Only you and Trump believe that it’s OK because after all the women shouldn’t allow it. They must” not “be decent “ as you say. And don’t tell me what your wife and daughter would have done because you don’t know and neither do they.
    I remember working for a man when I was in high school and he would s massage my back while I was working. I hated it and didn’t know what to do because if I really spoke up I would lose the job so I would kind of laugh. I guess I just wasn’t a decent person. Try educating yourself about women and sexual harassment and the lack of power. I bet you think it was OK for Trump to go into teenage girls lockers room because as he said “he could”. I bet you think those girls just weren’t decent because they let him in.
    You sadly, can’t see a person of poor character.....a narcissist sociopath...o
     
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    A private sex life....that involves blackmail is quite different. Why did you go off on Clinton?
     
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    Tell us why the republicans found nothing in those emails? Oh wait, they really love Clinton and wanted to help her ..another conspiracy
    How do you know the golden showers is fake? We know he is a bit perverted...getting off on grabbing ******* and going into teen girls locker rooms to ogle
     
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    A little bit of this is decent argument. There is no problem with me having women in congress. I assume once there they try to shed bias and do what is right. I recall that law you praise. But I do not recall the pro and con arguments.

    What is sad is Democrats lie to their subjects.
    First we do not wish to harm women's reproduction. We do wish they stopped the wholesale slaughter of their children. It is lousy for a society to operate this way. I feel as squeamish as people did over what Hitler did to Germany. I hate using his system as an example since in my opinion few truly understand the nature of the Hitler regime though they allege they do.

    We want the proper tax levied. We do not hate the rich to want them dragged down. We do not see them the way a dairy farmer sees his milk cows. We see them as our highest producing people.

    When you fight unjust laws that have a bad outcome for women, I am there with you. But the Democrats have long been using this as a prop. This crud has gone on forever it seems and Democrats get elected promising to end it. But they do not end it. Your report proves they never ended it.

    You are blaming the men. So if I pass the blame more equitably, do not dress me down. I want both sides to show respect for the opposite sex. But when we have people telling boys they are actually girls, despite anatomy of the boy, it sucks. It tricks children.

    First if by teen you mean female contestants of beauty shows, what worries more than that are the female athletes molested by their coaches or doctors. Those children are not there as sex objects. Beauty pageant people will take strong action if this is a problem for them. As the athletes have.

    I am a realist. I could join you and whine daily about Trump. Would it change the fact he is president? I am concerned with presidents actions much more as setters of the pace than as department heads. Heads of departments do the heavy work anyway. Nikki Haley at the UN is fabulous. Do you reject her because she is a republican? That measures you more than you measure me.
     
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    When you speak to we republicans, you can't tell us how lousy a crotch grabber is provided he is a republican then tell us the Democrat doing it is a wonderful person. You act as if all Democrat men are excellent and should get women's votes.
     
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    What democrat boast s about grabbing women’s *******? What democrat boasted on radio hat he goes into teenage girls locker rooms to watch them undress? You see, that’s why you are such a hypocrite. You elected him knowing his character. We don’t re-elect then like you (Vitter, Sanford) do..we fire them ( franken, weiner)
    I never said all democratic men are excellent but I realize that you can only think in extremes. Millions of women took to the streets protesting trump...think they all are dumb?
    What democrat voted against the Ledbetter bill? None. What democrats want to take away a woman reproductive freedom? What republicans are Proposing bills for early childhood education? Which party is fighting against gun control?
     
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    Women want their crotch grabbed against their will? I don’t know what kind of women you know. I guess guys want the balls grabbed also so let’s make it OK
     
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    Why is Bill Clinton 1000 times worse? He never bragged that grabs women’s crotches? We thought his behavior was wrong because he was a married man but how dare you compare him and say he is 1000 times worse? He now raped a woman? . I think you really have issues.
    You are guilty of projection. You are projecting that because you excuse a man who grabs women’s crotches against their will and who sneaks into dressing rooms to see teenage girls naked and pays off porn stars and prostitutes...onto us. We never would vote for a person like that. We’re not you!
     
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    Look, you will call me all kinds of names and now I understand that is your plan.
    Again, I do not plan to fight over the Ledbetter law since I forgot the precise arguments of the pro vs the con.
    If you don't think you got what you wanted from the Supreme Court on abortion, try harder next time.
    We men must fight for our children's sake. If women want children killed, all we can do is try to work inside law.
    I believe women need to come to congress not to shove only one view, but to shed bias and look at many issues rationally. I think and believe I am very rational. I said many times I spent decades on your side. i was making a huge mistake being a Democrat so quit that. You argue from the insult. Trouble is it fails to work.
    Nazis practiced the art of the perfect human so of course when you want children killed, even in the womb, I see it similar in outcomes. What difference does it make if the woman seeks the perfect child or just plain does not want one?

    I and you both once were this 1/10th of an oz. Ever get the chance to have a decent talk with a person who is a survivor? It is patently unfair for you to brand me as a person who does not take on children and care for them.

    I have never been married to a woman that had no children. I married 2 women. First one had a son and daughter. Second woman came to our wedding with 6 children. I took care of both families. I am blessed that all of the children love me and admire me. So you picked the wrong person to blast over children.

    Look, I once had a rapist as a client. I dumped him that moment. I am not pro rapists nor those who inflict harm on others. For you to operate as were I some evil force to be reckoned with is bigotry and bias. At least stop personal attacks.

    Like you, when i was for decades a Democrat, I saw republicans as evil humans or maybe subhumans. I was wrong. The issues of government most vital to me involve freedom of all of us, not some of us nor a particular class. We must get back to all being equal. To try to target the rich is wrong. As wrong as targeting the poor.
     
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    You defend Democrats. That is the plain truth. It is all that matters to you. Not the crime nor the person, the party.

    Clinton raped the first woman in England as a student. And it appears that it geared up his mind so he could rape other women. And those he did not manage to rape, he grabbed their ***** in the white house. But he is a good man to you. I am not one bit surprised.

    We now have Trump. That is the plain fact of life. Trump as I have said dozens of times was not my first selection. My selection failed to make it to November of 2016. The public in my state voted for Hillary. My vote for Trump did not matter at all. It was those people in the Great Lake States and other states that tore Hillary up. She was not a good candidate to those in the mid sections of this country. If you want to be hostile, go after them. My vote was worthless.
     
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    Face it, you do not like Nikki Haley and she is a woman. I think she is marvelous. She fights for freedom. And not just your freedom, but that of all of us. The fight for our freedom was not won by Washington and his men. We fight for it today. We are dragged into court over the various amendments to the constitution. And this country went hostile due to the income tax. I know this country managed for perhaps a 125 years with no income tax. And it could today if congress was willing.
     
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    Duh, we got what we wanted from the Supreme Court. Women along with men made abortion legal in this country.. You are the one who is trying harder to take away women’s reproductive freedom because you believe a zygote is an adorable little toddler. You are the one who wants a rape victim to have to raise her rapists child or her Daddys
    Yeah, we really need men to fight against our reproductive freedom. Good luck with that..worry more about men who don’t support children. You know, not zygotes, but real children
    Somehow I am hoping you are putting me on because you cannot believe that women have abortions because they want the perfect child like Hitler wanted. No one could be that insulting to women. When a woman cannot afford a child and cannot be a responsible parent it is her choice whether or not to let it develop into a child .
    No I have never spoken to a “survivor of abortion” that is so ridiculous. Oh how I ache for the child that I would have had if I had sex the Day before (sarcasm alert) . You don’t miss what you never had..
    Please don’t compare me to you. I never saw Republicans as evil humans or maybe sub humans as you say you did. That is why I call you an an extremist. I see you as an extremist and I see you as a sexist by you a very words. These are not personal attacks these are observations.
     
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    Trump is a crude male. Trump believed he was chatting with some guy of similar morals. I don't know how Democrats got their hands on that recording, but it was to smear a man who in my opinion is guilty of bragging. Blast him for bragging but we do not personally know for a fact that he grabbed any ***** or did things he spoke of. Maybe he was simply lying. We have no independent corroboration he did any of those things.

    I think the Democrats took to the streets. I doubt any republican women bothered. And did it help those women in DC? Frankly all the Democrats want now is to whine and to get into fights.

    Women have far more rights than getting rid of their own child.

    Hollywood the stronghold of Democrats is rife with molesters and rife with men who do not work well with women but those are your people. and you are welcome to such people. We do not want them.
     
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    As i said, your tactic is the insult and taunt. One woman went to the Supreme Court and later on what did she think about her win? She was remorseful. I do not understand the female ending up pregnant who truly is not wanting a child. Don't they get it as to how babies are conceived? I was married to the same woman for 13 years and we had one planned child. My last wife and I, despite differences in religion stuck it out for 3 years and we had but one daughter. She understood how not to get pregnant. I want women to be responsible. Not nail the baby over it showing up in her womb. I definitely do not want funding done for them by the Feds nor even the states.

    That is so much nonsense hurled at me due to rapists and others. I do not tell you I am for such things.

    A great woman lives in TX and back in the 1990s she posted on a forum that a poster here on this forum once posted with me on. I don't know if he recalls her but she was lucky to escape being aborted. Today she has children and a husband and is a graduate of a major TX university who works as a broadcaster on TV,. She used to speak up for the unborn a lot. She met her actual birth mom who did put her up for adoption. She is so thankful she lived.

    Your self righteous nature aside, I believe I have done far more for children in my life than you ever have.

    I am more like Barry Goldwater in that my extreme views are that we are to have government to keep freedom, not take it away. But for her unborn child, I have no issues otherwise with the females who get rid of children at the hands of professionals in the death trade.

    I did not say you saw republicans as evil but your efforts are persuading me that is your belief system. I mention how it was for me since it proves you too can change. I fear your desire to insult and taunt is no bridge of differences, it is a huge barrier erected entirely by you.
     
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    You are whining that Trump said he had permission. So do Gynecologists.
     
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    Do I see some of them going to jail over this? Yes, some of them have been put into prison. I am sick of the whining over Trump's bragging done in private many years back. It gets tiresome and not relevant.

    http://fox8.com/2012/06/19/45-year-sentence-reduced-to-11-years-for-convicted-rapist-doctor/

    https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/new...cle_e1e8d628-47c4-11e7-9b26-fff3a792af06.html

    https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/02/20/Gynecologist-charged-with-rapes/2420667026000/
     
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    Maybe you have no children. I have sired 2 adult women children who are excellent women and human beings. They did very well having me as their father. I put a lot more value on the human life than you do. Clearly by your own words you brand yourself as a woman who does not come close to valuing humans because they are not yet born. They are rubbish, to be removed as trash. i see humans unborn as deserving the chance. i enjoy life, why can't they?
     
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    I have reviewed the Ledbetter law.

    All it did is change dates. The law was she could file and had 180 days to file from the commission of the act.
    Now she has 180 days from her discovery of the act. So it extended her time to sue the employer.

    It is really not all that remarkable.

    They could have passed a much more far reaching law that applied to many many more cases.

    "
    Court rulings[edit]
    Main article: Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co.
    The antecedents of the case were posed when Lilly Ledbetter, a production supervisor at a Goodyear tire plant in Alabama, filed an equal-pay lawsuit regarding pay discrimination under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, six months before her early retirement in 1998.[2][3] The courts gave opposite verdicts, first supporting the complaint and later opposing; in conclusion the complaint brought the case to the attention of the Supreme Court. The latter ruled in 2007 by a 5-4 majority vote that Ledbetter's complaint was time-barred because the discriminatory decisions relating to pay had been made more than 180 days prior to the date she filed her charge, as explained by Justice Samuel Alito.[4] Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg's dissenting opinion proposed an interpretation according to which the law runs from the date of any paycheck that contains an amount affected by a prior discriminatory pay decision.[5]"
     
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    Blackmail? Who tried to blackmail Trump? The bastards!
     

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