FAA’s diversity push includes focus on hiring people with ‘severe intellectual’ and ‘psychiatric’ di

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  1. spiritgide

    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get tired of doing people's thinking for them.
    The problem isn't allowing diversity. It's forcing it, making it more important than the job and ahead of competence as a qualifier.
     
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    I'm tired of you thinking that you are thinking for me.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then relax, because I'm not thinking for you- I am observing how you think, and sometimes pointing out the obvious.
    I certainly don't expect it will change how you think. It may give you an option, if at some time you decide to apply some retrospection.
     
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    Nwolfe35 Well-Known Member

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    You really should take your own advice.
     
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    Wow! Don’t know much about it do you?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I sure hope none of those hires end up being the pilot
     
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    Ever heard of a man called Douglas Bader?
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    WW2 British fighter pilot.

     
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    What on earth makes you think that someone hired by the FAA is going to end up as a pilot?

    You do realize that the FAA does NOT hire pilots for airlines

    Don't you?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aviation doesn't have to do with pilots? That's new to me. Who cares if they do the direct hiring or not? They still have pull over hiring practices, hence the OP (maybe try to review it next time). Thanks
     
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    No, they do not have "pull over the hiring practices" other than setting minimum requirements to insure safety. The FAA is in no way involved in individual hiring decisions by the airlines. Furthermore the OP is about who the FAA is hiring..it has NOTHING to do with who the airlines hire.
     
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    Perhaps not; those clinical psychologists who came to the classes I used to teach on reading people and human relations were all probably too stupid to know that. Or you can tell yourself so.

    The test of what works- is that it does work, not just sound good. If you want to permanently fix a problem like depression, you have to start at it's source. You can't patch it, you have to remove the cause. Generally, counseling never tells the person they are trying to help what that is, because it will be immediately rejected and any chance of progress halted. They try to position the person for a different perspective, or drug them to suppress the problems. With rare exceptions, people measure new concepts with values they already hold- and if those values are faulty, they will reject ideas which are not compatible... and validate ideas that are. Thus... the problem continues and all they can do is try to mitigate the downsides.

    One of those psychologists came to my class long ago, because a person who had been in his therapy for years suddenly had a major breakthrough. He asked her what happened, and she told him of the class. He asked to interview me privately afterward. Insisted what I taught must have been taught to me, and wanted to know who that was. I told him, this is my own material; I've never seen a therapist in my life. He said that was impossible. I said, then how to do you explain me? He had asked how I got to where I was from where he was sure I had to be- but couldn't accept the answer.

    He eventually said that perhaps one person in 100,000 could do what I had done independently. Why? because the courage to deal with it head on is that rare. I'd never seen it that way, but I've come to recognize how true that is. The path is easy to explain, and I give it away- but it does take courage. I do charge for guidance and consulting, if the person wants it. Unfortunately, the truth is that the majority of people want the result, but they don't want to change the way they think. That is what ensures that the conditions in their minds and lives will not change. If you can't consider the idea that a problem exists because you reject the options to change it- you're stuck with it.

    I live by three principles I can write on a business card; it's that simple. They control everything else. I have a real partner and a great marriage, I've been successful in all the ways I wanted to be, and I'm a genuinely happy, thriving person. That's not luck, and that is not the person I always was- it's the person who learned how to become what they wanted to be. Almost anyone can.... Almost none will. It's a choice, that belongs only to the individual. I'm an anomaly, an exception to the norm only because I made the right choice. I no longer think as most people do, and I learned how to make life work from the worlds best teacher- over 40 years ago. I try to pass it along to the few who are ready to learn. Unfortunately, it is few. The rest will cling to beliefs that limit them, and tell you how you are wrong to suggest they could be more.

    The world is full of people telling you how wrong you are- but have no solutions, no pathway to what's right.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A long time ago I knew a guy who lost a leg in the Vietnam war. The leg they replaced it with made it very hard for him to walk or keep his balance, but if you tried to open a door for him he got pissed because he didn’t need your sympathetic help.
     
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    Whether this is a bad thing depends entirely on the jobs those folks would be hired for.
     
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    FAA doesn’t hire pilots.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You've got it. Pride in yourself is an important value for anyone. It means you are independent; you don'tlean on others to get by. There used to be a building contractor here who had no legs at all. I don't know why. The man had special gloves and pads on his knuckles, pushed himself around ona 4-wheel dolly. Went to the lumberyard in his big truck, which he could climb into and drive by himself with it's special features. He could even climb a ladder, a custom one he built to serve his condition. Never took money he didn't earn. The quality of his work was high, and his word was solid. You can't give that to people; they have to find their own strength and prove themselves to themselves. If someone like that can do it, everybody can do it. Just have to dig a little deeper and find the courage.
     
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    Clever, but both Dems and Reps help find a place in society for those with severe mental illness. They elect them!
     
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    I will always vote for the candidate who does not expressly hate me and want me and mine dead. This isn't rocket science.

    Perhaps the Democrats should field a candidate that does not want to destroy the productive half of the country.
     
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    why not-we have a brain dead president? meritocracy is anathema to the Left
     
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    The FAA is already in the business of compromising public safety. They went along with shot mandates, and pilots have been experiencing "medical emergencies" including death ever since. Like so many other federal agencies including the Pentagon, the FAA has toxic leadership. Nobody in leadership knows right from wrong.
     
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    What are the illegals supposed to do then?
     
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    They become engineers, scientists, educators, and CEOs of their own businesses.

    Even though refugees sometimes start in low paying jobs. As time goes by, they become more and more productive members of society. They bring great wealth to this country.
     
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    I will believe that when I see it.
     
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    Here are a few

    -Karla Cornejo Villavicencio, undocumented immigrant who graduated from Harvard.

    -Dan-el Padilla Peralta, graduated as a salutatorian from Princeton, was offered a scholarship to Oxford, but declined fearing he wouldn't be admitted back in the U.S. if he left

    -Bambadjan Bamba, cast in films like Black Panther, Suicide Squad, .. and series like The Good Place, Grey's Anatomy...

    -Jose Antonio Vargas, Journalist who won several accolades, including a Pulitzer.

    -Neil Young, as in "Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young". Huge number of song hits and accolades. But used to be afraid of driving fearing a cop might stop him and get him deported.

    ...

    I could go on and on but...you get the picture. Which is that, even if you DO "see it", you're just going to deny it.

    What have YOU accomplished to make this country better?
     
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    It's petty to call out the absolute bs agenda of wokeism?

    In what backwards world does it make sense to hire the least competent people?
     
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    You promised me engineers and scientists, not entertainers.

    And Dan-Els mission in life is to trash Western Civilization. Literally. Look him up.

    Myself, I developed statistical techniques to estimate the amount of oil imported.
     
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