Facebook Bans Second Amendment Group Without Explanation

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  1. grapeape

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    Watch her speech, it was taken out of context. Literally the first words out of her moth were "I want a peaceful revolution"
     
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    they banned then temporarily, and it sounds like it all worked out
     
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    and Trump claiming he could shoot someone on 5th ave and get away with it

    and Trump saying Second Amendment folks could stop Hillary, hinting at their guns

    the women that did the beheading thing, lost her job, never saw the left or you defending her
     
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    You realize that Parler got removed from the internet by Big Tech? Also, just for your reference Parler replaces Twitter, not Facebook.
     
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    And they don't apply them equally or fairly to their customers.

    The agreement goes both ways. If you don't violate the EULA you agreed to, they don't have the right to ban you. You seem to think that their EULA is a document that only goes one way. That's not the case.
     
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    Dead wrong.

    ANYTHING you say about Parler can be said about Facebook or Twitter....yet they remain.

    We all know why....you know why.....you'll never admit it.
     
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    They have the right to do what they want via their ULA. Im not debating that. Im saying that they have the right.
     
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    Not even close.

    Thats why we are literally having this discussion. You cant claim facebook/twitter is selectively kicking people off who post hate speech, and then claim that they are allowing the speech like Parlor was ?
     
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    So what? They are under no obligation to play by your idea of fairness.
     
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    They are obligated to NOT VIOLATE their agreement with customers. Do you not get that this is an agreement between two parties?
     
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    Be more specific. Which agreement was violated and with who?
     
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    "via their ULA"

    That's where we agree. But, because the agreement is between two parties, they have to abide by it too. Customers have rights whether you like it or not.

    Except they are. Just because they've banned some, doesn't mean that anything said on Parler can't also be found on facebook and twitter (and probably with much greater volume). There's tons of examples and they've been posted and can be fournd online easily. But of course leftist hate speech and calls for violence are cool with twitter and facebook as long as they ban just enough to claim some credibility.
     
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    There's been plenty of examples of bannings for no reason. Facebook has released their 'community standards' that detail why someone might be banned and 'because we feel like it' or 'because we disagree with you on politics' are not among them.

    Unless it states somewhere else that facebook can ban you for no reason, then no, they can't just drop the ban hammer whenever they want. You are their customer and their product. It's the very reason there is an EULA. If they can do what they want when they want (as some here keep saying) then there'd be no reason to agree to any EULA. There would be no reason for it to even exist.
     
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    FB, twitter, political forum, google, etc can ban people for any reason they see fit. Full stop.
     
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    trump is delusional. It seems to make the followers also delusional. And these are grown old men, most of them.
     
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    Because you said so....cool.

    That's not in their agreement with their users.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    But Parler didn’t get shut down for the same things that were on facebook. Parler got shut down because they didn’t do anything about it....and they allowed it to get a lot worse


    And lets be clear, the government didn’t shut down parlor, Amazon did because they violets amazons T’s and C’s
     
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    WRONG.

    The can "drop the ban hammer" anytime that they want (for any (or even no) reason). Period.

    Anybody who gas a problem can go to another Platform (or start their own).
    ^Problem solved.

    And, in the eyes of Facebook's Execs:

    Random complaints (online and elsewhere) about FB's "Policies", have less relevance than a Hummingbird Flit in a Hurricane.
     
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    I was under the impression that FB & Twit were not only removing hate speech but also a "right"-ish point of view. In other words political bias.

    I am led to believe that "censorship" doesn't exist at Parlor no matter from where it stems and this was a green light for "rightists" who feel their political views were being stiffled at FB. The rumours, of course, was that Parlor was a far-right think tank but I suppose it is equally open to both right and left.

    All of this is only me guessing. I tried to sign onto Palor several times to see for myself but I never succeeded. I have a feeling that my geographical location isn't allowed.

    There is much that is wrong with America today but it started a long time ago .... sometime after the end of WW II. Its downfall (from a Democratic point of view) gradually worsened although it had a short spell of improvement during the anti-Vietnam war protests and civil rights movement. Alas, any Democratic gains made during that period are now all lost.
     
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    No, I didn't know that.

    I know people who have left FB to join Parlor so I'm going by what they've told me. I have no experience with Parlor.
     
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    How is blowing up a building peaceful and you dodged the other two.. Meanwhile after like twenty tries no one can quote Trump calling for anyone to be violent and riot and you want him gone.. ****ing pathetic
     
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    So they can violate their own EULA....interesting.

    And in one respect I guess you are right, they can do it whenever they want because they do and they get away with it. I guess I should be more specific and say that they can't do it legally unless both parties agree to it, IE, it must be explicitly stated in the EULA that you agree to.

    Now, the catch, all FB has to do is come up with some round about reason they banned someone and say 'look, it's against our policy', when in fact, it was nothing more than a group/person FB didn't like due to politics. It really is that simple.

    Trust me, I'm well aware that you don't care as this type of dishonest behavior benefits your side and you've state many times regarding many subjects that you don't care about honesty/legality/morality/etc as long as it benefits your side. So move on...problem solved.
     
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    Go educate yourself.

    You can clearly read so go read them. Your willful ignorance is your problem and it's not mine to fix.

    Now you may respond telling me I have nothing because I'm not willing to do your work for you. I'll wait.
     
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    Do you really think you should have some recourse if FB bans you? GTFOOH.
     
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