FACT: Atheists are Lost

He's a christian don't ya know.

 

Mark 16:

…16"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned. 17"These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues; 18they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."

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Just like you and others do when you skirt around my questions seeking clarification of your posting comments.

There you go... a direct admission that I will never obtain the clarifications that I seek from you and others. Thereby rendering all of your postings where I have sought clarification and did not receive that clarification, to be worthless comments that you made which caused my need for clarification. You see, I do have a curious mind, in that I don't arbitrarily accept things people say, and like a scientist, I seek the truth ... not something hidden behind a veil that you refuse to reveal.

And I am supposed to be impressed by your opinions? LOL. You declare that I distort the meaning of what someone has stated, however when I ask for clarification, I get accused of playing games. Neat little game you have going there. Damned if I do and damned if I don't. Catch22 anyone?

So now you not only speak for yourself but also for that group you called "we". Not only that, but you also seem to think that you know what all those others know. Wow. Another mind reader in the group. So give us an example of what "we" really know? Seemingly some of the folks on this forum could use a little reminder now and then about the meanings of words.

You mean like when I corrected another member on his choice of the word "viable" and by extension showed him where the 'Bible' is a "viable evidence" and that the 'Bible' is practicable for the purpose that it serves?

What is the practical reason for admitting to something that is not true? That is what you are asking me to do. Respect? I remember a thread in the past 10 months or so dealing with the issue of 'respect'... that one turned out to be quite a joke.

 

You have never asked me a question except to demand I provide you PROOF of anything including the sky being blue!

You have yet to engage me in actual debate and ask questions that can be answered not insinuation's you apply to the misconstrued words of mine you twist into nonsense.

Here's your chance . Ask a LEGITIMATE question of me... you know the kind asked of you concerning whether or not you are a christian, and I will gladly demonstrate for you what a straight answer looks like!

Otherwise expect more of the same from me.

 

Good... then I will ask you for the same requirements: What is your personal definition of Christian; What are the private connotations that you are applying to the term "Christian"; and what is your interest in my private beliefs? One more question. Does my being a Christian or not have anything to do with the thread title "

• FACT: Atheists are Lost"?

 

Give some one an inch and suddenly they demand a mile!

Hang on to your hat here we go...

Question 1. Any one who thinks or claims that Jesus was the son of god sent to save sinners.

Question 2. Same as the above.

Question 3. My interest is your blatant refusal to answer a simple question not so much what you believe, but in order to see a resolve to this conundrum requires you to actually answer the question.

Question 4. One can not expect atheists to take seriously anyone arguing for the affirmative in this thread if they are an atheist so it is kind of important as to whether or not you are a christian or just a troll that likes to argue but not be committed to the argument.

See how easy that was!

My turn...

Question 1. are you a christian?

 

Well of course I am. See how easy it was to get a straight answer. By clearing up the possibility of there being some hidden alternative meaning or connotation being placed on the term "Christian", I have no problem answering such a question. Now that you have shown the ease at which something might be accomplished, then perhaps you might want to inform and educate some of those who unlike you, refused to answer my simple questions. That door does swing both ways you know.

 

I have long realized that God is probably an illusion of inadequately developed intellects. Normally referred to as spiritual hokey pokey.

 

You asked and I answered 4...

Question2. what denomination?

 

Non denominational.

 

The term 'realized' also has some unique qualities about it. How did you 'realize' that "God is probably an illusion"? Are you suggestion that you have made an illusion to manifest into reality? Or are you suggesting that you correctly or completely comprehend God? Who is the one who can determine whether or not your comprehension is either correct or complete?
"re·al·ize
(rē′ə-līz&#8242v. re·al·ized, re·al·iz·ing, re·al·iz·es
v.tr.1. To comprehend completely or correctly.
2. To bring into reality; make real: "

 

Question 3. Are there denomination or versions of Christianity that you deem as not actually being Christian?

 

No. None of them. Only the people involved can be Christian and only people can form a congregation A denomination can be a group of people united under a common system of faith ... such as Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, However, they are all Christian people.

 

Question 4. Do you think the Westboro Baptist Church as a denomination has incorrectly interpreted the bible but it's individual members are still Christians?

 

I have never attended the Westboro Baptist Church, therefore I would have no positive knowledge of what is being taught to the congregation. In other words, I am not qualified to answer that question. I will say this. If the organization (administrative section) is allowing a wrongful interpretation to be delivered to the congregation, Then God, through His own methods and tools will resolve the wrongs of that church. The members who abide by the teaching of the 'Bible' in spite of any wrongful teachings that are indorsed by the administrative section of the church will IMHO still be considered as Christian.

 

Now it is my turn again.
1: Did any of your questions prove anything other than the fact that I can be genuine in my responses as long as the other party or parties are also being genuine in their questions?

2: Was any of the insinuations directed at me really necessary? I mean after you showed that you have the gumption to answer my questions I also answered yours.

It seems, that as soon as an agreement was reached via your response to my inquiry all was well. Civility goes a long way in my book.

 

1. Yes.

2. All insinuations were simply reciprocal.

 

Ok, I get how you where trying to use it now.

Your friends are irrelevant.

That is the same logic as saying: "i know a black guy, so I cannot be racist"

Even flame baiters can have friends.

 

Mispost

 

Aww man.

 

"reciprocal" would indicate that there was an original insinuation posted by me. Please show that insinuation and explain how you believe it to be an insinuation.
Regarding you first answer above: You indicated that the questions proved something other than what I suggest in my response. What were those other things that the questions proved?

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Then prove that the alleged flame baiting is nothing more than your overactive imagination.

 

IMHO
It seems that post numbers 769 and 770 are demonstrations of your intellectual prowess.

 

You prove it with every post.

 

Are they really?

Everyone has a right to their opinion, it doesn't make it true.

 

This is yet another example of your disingenuous twaddle. As soon as you are confronted with a logical argument you run around screaming "prove reality exists ... prove reality exists"

I could say "bats have wings" and you would exclaim "Prove reality exists". Do you have no other material ?

I did not even make a claim that reality could be proven in the last post so why would you even say that ? What is this lunacy where you need to respond to claims that were not made in a effort to derail the topic ?

What is it you are so afraid of ?

You are the one that was crying because I lumped objective evidence in with objective reality. How can you claim that objective reality and objective evidence are different if reality can not be proven ?

Please .. for once explain how your contradictory and hypocritical position ... is not contradictory and hypocritical.

and then .. even though it was not the topic, I will give you proof that reality exists.