FAITH in a RELIGION for those who REFUSE FACTS.

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  1. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Okay religious people I'm going to keep this simple so you can understand the differences:

    A THEORY is an hypothesis that through scientific methods is demonstrated using our current ability to work with science, until something better is demonstrated and proven to be superior and when we cannot as humans understand we accept we don't or likely will ever know.

    Now RELIGIOUS PEOPLE to me base their understanding on story books, conjecture in some cases opposed to science and when they don't know something invoke a Divine Force aka "god did it" that is not rational, not testable and often to people on the Atheist side sounds ridiculous.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    You are confusing the Great Apes with Apes.

    Humans and Great Apes shared a common ancestor.

    But Apes is a term that is specific to both Humans, Chimpanzees, Gorillas, Orangutans and Gibbons.

    LINK....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

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    You and the Gorilla Julia from the bronx zoo share a common ancestor. You and WanRen share a common ancestor. You and every culm on planet earth share a common ancestor. ...

    It's unimportant wether human beings are apes or not. Example: Some people - you can call them apes if you like but I don't do so - are thinking about to protect Dolphins as human beings under the human rights. And dolphins are hopefully even in your view on the world not apes. I guess you should use the expression "homo sapiens sapiens" if you speak about biology and not "human being" as if you would try to use a form of social darwinism. This would make much more clear what you try to speak about.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezmxOAI0CL8
     
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    I am not offended that some humans are apes, but you are offended that not all humans are apes. Humans are animals and humans are not apes. Does that offend you are you now a tetrapods not an ape anymore?

    Again you have no concrete proof except theories. Taxonomic is fact, human evolved from ape is a theory. Theories are not truth or facts.

    That is good to know and now do you accept that we (me and my ancestors) evolved from human.

    So which species of ape did your ancestors evolved from?

    Great ape is what the scientist came up with the name but they are not sure if it is an ape or human in reality it can easily be Great human.

    Here very simple English; humans evolved from human kind, apes evolved from ape kind or you and your kind evolved from the great ape and me and my kind evolved from the Great human.
     
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    Everything here in this universe evolved from one common ancestor and that is God. God is that One common ancestor from Him came the flying creatures, the sea creatures, the mammals, the insects, bugs, the trees, the plants. the rock, the ocean, the planet, the universe and etc. This is what scientist have been searching for the beginning of life and the universe.
     
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    Well....I got to hand it to you.

    This post of yours....as far as I have been able to tell...makes absolutely no point...does nothing to even be called Supporting an Argument or Debate never mind being clear enough to actually be of any value to validate your argument....and after reading it several times....I cannot for the Life of Me....understand why you even bothered to waste the time to post it.

    All this post of yours was and did was a waste and did waste my time by reading.

    I somehow feel that not only have I lost a few I.Q. Points by reading it....but I also feel that Humanity as a whole has somehow suffered due to this posts very existence.

    AboveAlpha
     
  7. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Officially there is no theory of the Great Human only the Theory of the Great Ape, remember it is a theory and why are you so offended that it is only a theory and ask yourself why and how sure are you that the Great Ape theory that one single ancestors of ape and humans could really be a Super Human?

    Everything here evolved from one single organism and that one single organism has its beginning from the One and only God. This is what scientist have been trying to learn and discover the beginning of things just like back then scientist thought there was only nine planets they now know there are more planets but most recently they have discover the atom of all atom the God-particle. Soon they will discover that there is no Great Ape and that humans are a special creature that was created and evolved separate from ape in fact that Great Ape theory could easily turn out to be a Great Human.
     
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    Ren....Humans ARE Apes.

    Humans are in the APE FAMILY as Humans, Gorillas, Orangutan, Chimpanzee and Gibbons are ALL APES.

    You are confusing what are all species of Ape with what are Great Apes and Lessor Apes.

    But Humans are APES.

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