"Faith is the permission the religious give themselves when reason fails." - Harris

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  1. Qchan

    Qchan Banned

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    I'm simply asking that you clean up your post so I can read it and reference it. Provide links to some of your drivel. Otherwise you would've typed all of that for nothing, because I'd simply regard it all as a rant from a random dude on the Internet.
     
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    Interesting. QChan had assured us before that Israel couldn't be the servant in Isaiah, and yet Isaiah it explicitly states Israel is the servant, just as he explicitly states that the messiah in his book is Cyrus (Isaiah 45:1).
     
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    Israel, sometimes referred to as 'O Jacob', is considered the Servant in much of the OT. Even Mary in the NT in her song (the Magnificat) refers to Israel as the Servant.
    Cyrus as a messiah is not the meaning that immediately comes to mind. Anointing applied at this time to Kings of Israel, not because they were messiahs but anointed as kings - gods agents. They received the divine attributes of gods support, strength and wisdom. In Cyrus' case he is not an Israelite king - but he is gods agent. He is a 'messiah' only in the sense of releasing the Jews from Babylonian control.
     
  4. phil white

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    Faith is the permission we physicist give ourselves when our various theories don't jib.
    Like general relativity and quantum mechanics.
    Or the partical theory of light versus the wave theory.
    Or the partical nature of the electron vs the electron wave theory.
    Or the faith we have that we are in an 11 dimensional universe, this I know because the math tells me so.:salute:
     

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