FBI is a politiced institution. There is no doubt.

If the POTUS has the ultimate authority to classify a document who has authority over the POTUS to declassify what has classified without his approval? As head of the Executive branch he has authority to decide how confidential documents are declassified. In the Executive he is top dog.

 

It should hold up just fine since he’s the person with the power to do so.

 

Yeah, I think he's been hanging around with that bunch over there. I've always liked his movie and had been wondering why he hasn't made any new ones recently. It's only recently I've seen stories of his Russian connections.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ste...pied-ukraine-spreads-russia-propaganda-2022-8
Russia sent Steven Seagal to occupied Ukraine to spread propaganda, part of his role as a Kremlin spokesman

"While Russia accuses Ukraine of hitting the center with US-provided HIMARS artillery, Ukraine blamed it on Russian shelling — in either case, a war crime.

Seagal was there to promote the Russian side, in his capacity as a special representative of Russia's foreign ministry, tasked with US-Russian relations. Seagal, a longtime admirer of Russia and President Vladimir Putin, was given that title in 2018."


https://www.newsweek.com/steven-seagal-leaving-russian-special-envoy-ukraine-1729173
Steven Seagal to Leave Russian 'Special Envoy' Role Amid Tensions With U.S.
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You free to both hold and express your opinions.

 

Fortunately we aren't actually the banana republic these clowns think we are. In the end our constitutional system will stand strong against these rogue, heavily armed, lying, agency thugs.

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My wishes and desires have nothing to do with the Constitutional recognition of the inherent powers of the Commander-in-Chief. And I wouldn't chase this goose too far. The classified crap will not result in charges for the reasons I stated and the presidential records act won't either, because they are not criminal statutes, despite the DOJ/FBI trying to pretend that they are, which they got past the judge that approved this warrant, or perhaps they didn't and he signed it anyway, who knows? He's not saying, and interestingly his page has promptly disappeared from the Federal Court in FL, and no one is saying why. It's just gone.

So, do as you wish, but the "macguffin" is something that they can construe to support felony charges, for violent crimes, based on J6, that would support a case, beyond a reasonable doubt, and to a moral certainty, that Trump knew that he lost, that he was lying when he was questioning the election, all in the service of launching a violent attack on Congress to prevent the recognition of Biden/Harris as the winners of the election. That's what this is raid is about, the FBI/DOJ claims otherwise are lies.

But, with the raid completed, the question is, did they come up with the evidence to support their theory, or not?

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I spose it depends on your view of the establishment. Seems to me the establishment is collectivist, authoritarian, centralized and politically correct. Trump policy undermines all of those things. So yes, Trump is antiestablishment.

...perhaps it would be just as accurate to say Trump promotes a different establishment than the one we have. But that seems to me to be splitting hairs that need not be split.

 

Trump seemed to me to be most explicit authoritarian ever elected in my lifetime. And this is not just due to his lack of polish, lack of being politically correct. I can appreciate to some extent how there are a lot of folks that don't appreciate the value of saying please and thank-you, much less some of the additional stuff that political correctness demands above and beyond just being polite and well-spoken. Trump, it seems to me was well rewarded for his vocal bluster by people that he would **** upon in real life. People that he has **** upon in real life. Regular working class trades he screwed over in Atlantic City are well documented. He and his father's scheme to keep black folk out of their properties: well documented. His support among the white nationalists: well documented.

His ability to maneuver through the establishment, also well documented. His bailouts by various banks when he was on the verge of bankruptcy because the banks let him convince them that their interests were better served by bailing him out: Genius, absolutely top-of-the-line conman skills right there. Ha! He even got them to help him roll out a NYSE listed company, DJT.

Yeah, anti establishment, sure he is....

 

It really isn't.

 

That's the whole problem, Overitall. The Democrats and their muscle, the DOJ, don't want to acknowledge his authority. They never did. He's the outsider.

 

Hardly

 

When they were given the green light to collect any and all documentation of his presidency... then yes.... the FBI is the brown shirts of our times..

 

Yes, the FBI has definitely shown the American public their true colors.

 

Go ahead and tell us why Trump is not a DC outsider.

 

I’ll leave it to you to figure it out friend, but let me tip you in the direction of the boys who dream of pulling the strings in DC

 

So, in other words, you have no rebuttal.

Okay then,

 

Under the guise of “saving our democracy” they are destroying it for power. The unfortunate thing about it is so many people have been convinced/programmed to hate Trump they willfully ignore the dangerous game the Democrats are playing. Watch. If the Republicans regain both chambers in the midterms and start doing what the democrats have been doing for the last seven years, rioting (under the guise of “mostly peaceful protest”) in the streets will most likely occur. Hopefully we’ll have a POTUS. that really believes in law and order and will squash those “mostly peaceful protests” telling the Democrats to kiss his ass, if they whine about it (like Abbot told the Mayor of NY).

 

Have you any source besides CBS news as to just where the POTUS is commanded to make such a request? To whom must he apply according to CBS News?

 

au·thor·i·tar·i·an
[əˌTHôrəˈterēən]
ADJECTIVE

1. favoring or enforcing strict obedience to authority, especially that of the government, at the expense of personal freedom

How did Trump favor or enforce strict obedience to the government, or undermine personal freedom?

 

No, they never lost track. Hence the subpoena a couple of months ago, which Trump never fully complied, and now the search warrant.

 

He didn't.
Some are only interested in repeating some propaganda they've heard and hoping it sticks.

 

Trump did fully comply.

 

Actually, I can, from an actual lawyer and other sources. Trump is trying to find a legal defense for a possible criminal charge. Just because he says something does not mean it is true and accurate. Usually it is either a half-truth or outright lies. The point is whether he declassify them or not is not as important. If it is true they were declassified, he is still violating the Presidential Records Act. If they were not declassified, then it is a violation of the Presidential Records Act and other violations including some aspects of the Espionage Act. Remember, TSSCI can be declassified, but those secrets will need to be blocked before that document can be released. Again, the process was not followed. And there are not any loopholes here.

Try again.






https://news.yahoo.com/trump-claims-had-standing-order-185553958.html

https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/aug/11/could-trump-argue-declassified-documents/

 

If he fully complied, then why were those documents still there? There was a subpoena for these documents to be turned over to the NARA and that did not comply. Hence the search warrant.

 

Why didn't the four men take the rest of the boxes that they KNEW were being kept in the basement?