Federal documents: more than 300,000 likely to die if restrictions are lifted

What the **** good is your freedom when there's no longer any way to enjoy it? Fighting this virus is fighting to protect those freedoms. Just as in any war, we fight an enemy which threatens our peace and security.

Livelihoods? You speak as though you think this is just annoying political posturing, or a pedestrian economic glitch. This is a freaking war, Dear. An emergency.

 

Federal documents: more than 300,000 likely to die if restrictions are lifted

Fact: more than 300,000 WILL die in the next 40 days regardless if restrictions are lifted or not.
But they will die from other than COVID19. This happens every 40 days regardless if a pandemic or not.

 

Viruses don't "die". They are not living to begin with.

Immune systems and UV light stop viruses. Draconian measures such as house arrest do not. You do realize that it has spread all over the world, right?

Both of those things quite literally destroy the virus.

They have chosen to compromise their immune systems due to not taking proper care of themselves. But even so, those immune systems still actively work to destroy the virus (just not as effectively, as above-mentioned) It would be akin to using UV-A light instead of UV-B or UV-C light.

My point is that freedoms and liberties are being swept away from under us due to falling "hook line and sinker" for irrational fear peddling. We are stupidly giving up control of ourselves to "daddy government", who CREATED THE DAMN PROBLEMS, to let them "solve the problems" (never actually solving them) for us, since they need those problems to exist in order to gain in size/power/scope and to keep steadily gaining control over us and every aspect of our lives.

 

1) Obviously. But they can be 'killed' by deprivation of hosts. What do you think happens to a virus without hosts? Where does it 'go'? It can do one of two things .. mutate before the last of the old hosts is dead, or disappear - dust in the ether.

2) UV sunlight harms this virus when it's outside the host and therefore highly vulnerable, yes. Sunlight will do nothing once the virus is living inside the host. More importantly though .. what does 'house arrest' have to do with accessing sunlight? We don't live underground. We have all day every day to absorb sunlight, no matter where we live. Madrid, Tokyo, Wyoming, Tahiti, London, Mexico .. sunlight is free, and available everywhere.

3) Yes, but HUGE numbers of Americans have compromised their immune systems. Which makes America vulnerable to significant impact from mass illness.

 

Sure, but that happens in every war and every large scale crisis. What are you actually comparing this situation to? You can't compare it to the good times, because these aren't the good times. All you can compare it to is other events of the same magnitude. When you do that (as you must, if you don't want to drive yourself mad), you will see that this is nothing compared to the hardships we've faced historically. And it's nothing compared to future pandemic responses - which I guarantee will be much stronger.

 

1 in 5 Americans has files for unemployment.

20%

And yet some want to keep the economy closed.

Nothing will wake them up it seems. Time to ignore them completely and move on with saving the country.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...s-since-mid-march/ar-BB13JGty?ocid=spartandhp

 

Sydney Brain and Mind Center:

Far more Australians will kill themselves because of coronavirus lockdown than those who die of the virus, experts say.

• New research predicts suicides could double across Australia due to COVID-19
• Modelling shows suicide rates could be four times higher than corona deaths
• Experts are concerned there could be a generational mental health crisis

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...edicted-die-suicide-coronavirus-lockdown.html

It is becoming clear that the direct effects of coronavirus pale in comparison to the indirect effects. Lockdown the politics, break down the lockdown forever.

 

It's well known that people like to spend in times of pandemic.

 

The CDC rule for reporting deaths is that if a person has tested positive for Covid and dies, their death is a "Covid death". Around April 15th, CDC expanded rules on reporting cause of death, allowing doctors to "presume" that someone died of Covid with no positive test.

About 50% of deaths are happening in nursing homes.

Nursing home life expectancy is grim. 50% of residents die in 5 months or less, usually 1-3 months. 65% die in 6 months or less.

If a resident in a nursing home who tested positive but is asymptomatic dies from a heart attack, their death counts as Covid, according to CDC rules. Other residents in a outbreak who died but never tested positive may be "presumed" to have had Covid, and are added to the death count.

Those are facts.

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This is conspiracy theory. Or is it?

 

Never forget this is all political bullshit and to anyone who disagrees, go back and read a few of the usual suspect's pre-Chinese virus posts, especially during the Russia, Russia, Russia, Mueller Report, Kavanaugh hearings, and especially the much touted impeachment debacle days.
More of the same and now they have Crazy Uncle Joe to deal with on top of it all.

 

Thank you, awesome reply.

 

Are you suggesting that we kill off all living things on Earth? That's the only way you're going to deprive a virus of hosts...

Irrelevant. It still has hosts.

UV light need not come from the sun. How do you think hospitals sterilize their equipment?

Didn't say house arrest had anything to do with sunlight. I said that house arrest does not stop a virus, and that UV light DOES stop a virus. However, a lot of the sunlight that we experience is UV-A (some is UV-B), and UV-B/UV-C light works much better than UV-A does.

Plenty of people around the whole globe have indeed chosen to compromise their immune systems (or were born with or naturally developed compromised immune systems). Yet, plenty of other people have perfectly functioning immune systems. You are fear mongering again.

 

COVID-19 is not a war nor a crisis.

What "pandemic"? You are fear mongering again...

 

You realise Australia hasn't even had a 100 COVID deaths, right?

 

If it makes you feel safer to think that, I recommend you keep it up.

 

are these the same models that predicted 2.2 million deaths
like I'm going to continue to believe their bull crap
just like i would stop believing a meteorologist that predicts a cat 5 hurricane and all we got was showers

 

Have you forgotten about all of those people who became infected because they attended church services?

Groups of people singing expel a lot of the virus into the air!

Groups of people breathing hard as they workout in the gym are going to expel a lot of the virus into the air.

You can't wipe down the air so even if you wipe down the equipment BEFORE you use it will probably be contaminated again before you have finished wiping it down.

Gyms will be great places to become infected.

Let the Covidiot-in-Chief's GENOCIDE Games begin!

 

then take your concerns and dont go to church dont go to the gym
look the virus isnt going any where only way to stop the spread is gain an immunity either by catching it or a vaccine
so my suggestion is you chicken littles just shut your self up in your home and let the rest of us that needs to feed themselves and family get on with thier lives

 

lets put this in perspective 1.25 million die every year in car accidents around the world thats 5 times as many thats died from the corona virus
6% of car accidents result in at least one death which is twice the fatality rate of the corona virus

but do we ban cars? do we shut down roads?

 

There is NO immunity because this virus MUTATES!

That is why people get colds and the flu because they MUTATE!

The flu vaccine is only partially successful and they have NEVER managed to produce a cold vaccine.

There is NO vaccine, NO cure and NO effective treatment for Covid19!

Making excuses for GENOCIDE does not cut it!

It is POSSIBLE to implement PRECAUTIONS that PREVENT the spread of the virus in the workplace but they MUST be strictly ENFORCED!

That is NOT happening so instead there are going to be well over 100,000 deaths!

Obviously PROFITS mean far more to Covidiot-in-Chief supporters than We the People.

 

Who knew you could be INFECTED with the car accident virus?

 

what a load of crap the smallpox virus was eliminated world wide because of vaccinations a vaccine you only get once

 

a death is a death no matter from a virus or a car accident
and you can slow or even stop the1.25 million car accident deaths by banning cars and or shutting down roads so why dont we that would be 1.25 million lives saved

 

That is a DIFFERENT type of virus!

Smallpox is the Variola virus while Covid-19 is the Corona virus. Fast mutating viruses like Corona render vaccines ineffective.

 

Thank you for establishing that you lack the necessary subject matter knowledge to engage in a meaningful debate on the topic as far as I am concerned.